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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7410 on: September 21, 2018, 12:22:59 PM »
midget,

Is it alive yet?

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7411 on: September 21, 2018, 02:51:01 PM »
midget,

Is it alive yet?

 :cheers:
Oktoberfestboy

Not yet.

This just arrived today -

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/modules/parts/554-112

I've been texting, e-mailing and chatting with "Sparkplug" Gary about this whole machination this week.  If you've been to the White Goose at Bonneville, Gary's the guy who people bring their spark plugs to.  He does a lot of EFI work, and coached me through a lot of methodology and "best practices" this week. 

I'm grateful for that, because I'm dumber than a garbage can full of bowling balls on some of this stuff.

Turns out the triggering circuitry of the Electromotive or MSD coils isn't compatible with the Holley stuff, REGARDLESS of which manner you configure the firing output in the ECU.

The easiest way around would have been to set it up with individual coils.  I know that now, but I'm past that stage, I'm unwilling to reconfigure the harness to do something other than wasted spark, and it's likely I would have had clearance issues with the hood at Cylinder # 1 on top of the engine.

By the way - a quick shout-out to Skyler at Holley.  I generally haven't had a lot of luck with Holley's tech support forum or online tech support, but once Sparkplug Gary got me turned in the right direction, I was able to get the questions answered right away by Skyler.     
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7412 on: September 21, 2018, 09:16:05 PM »
On the back of Tom's SAAB Sonnet, he has a picture of a wasp, and this statement . . .

"Feel the Sting".

I have a new target - 127.6605.

And I've got a week . . .  :|




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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7413 on: September 21, 2018, 10:06:06 PM »
Guess you'll be the light green hornet killer soon!  :x :-( :-D
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7414 on: September 21, 2018, 11:02:07 PM »
Guess you'll be the light green hornet killer soon!  :x :-( :-D

Woody, right now, I'd be happy with a can of Outdoors Off - The mosquitoes are thick this year.

So I put the coil driver in - and now the starter isn't working!

I think I'm going cross-eyed . . .

 
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Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

We are NOT rebuilding . . . We are reloading.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7415 on: September 21, 2018, 11:48:15 PM »
Is there somebody out there in or near London (England) who might be able to check out a piece of machinery (a Sunnen valve grinder) for me?

Supposedly a machinery dealer in London.   Address is close to Holborn Viaduct & Farringdon Street.

Any help would be appreciated.   Trying to make certain the dealer is not a scammer.

Thanks in advance for any help.  Liquid compensation available . . . . . .   :-D

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Message me the details. It’s not far from me at all and I can check it out for you. That address is right in the centre of London by the way.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7416 on: September 22, 2018, 08:41:38 AM »
Threw the battery charger on it last night.  Checked clearance as best I could between the starter pinion and the ring gear with the gooseneck inspection camera - tough telling without any depth perception, but it appears aligned up.

Last night, when I tried to turn it over, the starter was thumping the drive, but not turning the motor - hold button and it went "bump, bump, bump".  Converted Japanese starter, a common aftermarket replacement piece, but the nose of the case has been modified to fit this application, so if it's an issue, I'll need to rebuild it in order to keep the case.

It was at 14.4 volts last night - showing 17.2 this morning.  I'll confess the battery connector wasn't overly tight - hoping that's the issue.

I don't want to pull the starter - it requires removing the entire fuel injection and manifold.

Pressing on.  I'm double checking the ignition configuration upload so if it turns, I might be able to get it started.  I'd like to be able to get the engine started and loosen it up a bit.  Still hasn't turned on its own power.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7417 on: September 22, 2018, 09:09:03 AM »
Chris, would it help if I took a quick ride down there and tried to hand tools to you or something?  I'm clumsy but fun to watch - might be able to help a little bit.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7418 on: September 22, 2018, 09:13:19 AM »
Starter working - huge relief.
Attempting to datalog a no-start/stall condition.

Thanks, Slim.  My brother-in-law is stopping by today - he's a veterinarian, which makes him equally fun to watch when working on a car.   :wink:
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GOD SAVE MG - The Queen can take care of herself!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7419 on: September 22, 2018, 01:13:27 PM »
I am getting a solid signal from the crank sensor - green.  The cam sensor is flat - going to try to figure that out.

data log 1 by Chris Conrad, on Flickr
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Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

We are NOT rebuilding . . . We are reloading.

GOD SAVE MG - The Queen can take care of herself!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7420 on: September 22, 2018, 03:41:08 PM »
Chris, if he's a vet -- could he supply some medical-grade nitrous to make the evening go better? :evil:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7421 on: September 22, 2018, 04:18:15 PM »
Chris, if he's a vet -- could he supply some medical-grade nitrous to make the evening go better? :evil:

I could use a good laugh about now . . .
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7422 on: September 23, 2018, 12:45:05 PM »
I'm seeing about 2.7 volts on the power side of the cam sensor - needs to be 12V.

 :?
 
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7423 on: September 23, 2018, 09:40:22 PM »
Time to admit to a checkmate. 

Still no spark, although I believe I fixed the cam sensor issue.

I'll attempt to pull down a system log tomorrow and see for sure, but if it didn't start today, there's simply not enough time to get it finished by next Saturday to get on the road.

So next August will be the opportunity.



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We are NOT rebuilding . . . We are reloading.

GOD SAVE MG - The Queen can take care of herself!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7424 on: September 23, 2018, 10:44:58 PM »
B-U-M-M-E-R  :cry:
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