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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7335 on: August 03, 2018, 07:41:56 AM »
midget,

What time will you be @ T&T to pickup the engine?   I'll meet you there if I can, but I am very time limited today.  Let me know asap.

All the bits are boxed and labeled, gathered on the "steel bench".  The LH motor mount is boxed with its' bolts.   leave the engine stand and spud.    Also in that box, are a couple of bags of other bolts that you will need for assembly.   Some 5/16 unc nylock nuts would be nice to replace the plain ones we used to fit up the trans.   T&T may have some.   The Gurnee Ace Hardware certainly has them in stock.   If you use lock washers, I will disown you . . . . . .

Additionally, Kenny has loaned me his Parker Hannafin and other style tube beading tools.   Make sure you get them from Len.   They will allow you to bead the ends of any aluminum water tubes so that the hoses/clamps will be securely retained.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7336 on: August 03, 2018, 08:16:48 AM »
Chris, I'm free till about 1:30 Saturday. Can I help?

Don

Don,

Any chance you are available for the dyno or better yet, Wendover?
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7337 on: August 03, 2018, 08:18:07 AM »
Copy that.

My compadre here at Select Sound Service (Your Total Communications Company ©) is finishing up the work we started in Racine yesterday.  I expect he'll be back by 1:00, at which point I'll navigate the construction barrel and New Jersey Barrier strewn cattle chute that is I-94 heading toward the aboriginal land of Men and Warriors.

Figure 2:00 - 2:30.

What weight of break-in oil do I need to pick up at T&T?   
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7338 on: August 03, 2018, 08:25:06 AM »
Copy that.

My compadre here at Select Sound Service (Your Total Communications Company ©) is finishing up the work we started in Racine yesterday.  I expect he'll be back by 1:00, at which point I'll navigate the construction barrel and New Jersey Barrier strewn cattle chute that is I-94 heading toward the aboriginal land of Men and Warriors.

Figure 2:00 - 2:30.

What weight of break-in oil do I need to pick up at T&T?   

There is a note taped to the top of the engine on what I used to pre-oil.   Use the same stuff.   They had a case when I was there Wed.

Might be able to be there 2:30 - 3 ish.    I'll try, but I've got a busy day.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7339 on: August 03, 2018, 08:28:34 AM »
Use a LARGE capacity oil filter for initial startup.   Bring it, undrained, in a plastic bag (maybe double bag?) so we can inspect the oil and dissect the filter, BEFORE we hammer it on the dyno.

It's just good practice . . . . .
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7340 on: August 03, 2018, 08:30:41 AM »
A "one six pack job"  = 2 cases at least.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7341 on: August 03, 2018, 10:10:47 AM »
Appreciate y'all are racing against time but more engine porn please.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7342 on: August 03, 2018, 02:05:04 PM »
Appreciate y'all are racing against time but more engine porn please.

That's the intention.   There will be dyno picture porn and possibly a dyno porn video . . . . . .

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7343 on: August 03, 2018, 03:37:33 PM »
Will be on the road but best of luck. Will still follow when I can. Looking for good numbers. :cheers:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7344 on: August 03, 2018, 04:53:19 PM »
what day and time is Dyno?
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7345 on: August 04, 2018, 09:00:35 AM »
what day and time is Dyno?

Current plan is Tuesday the 7th.   But it is dependent on several factors, all revolving around Chris.   He might be better to determine the schedule.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7346 on: August 05, 2018, 10:57:29 AM »
Dynothon?

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7347 on: August 05, 2018, 11:39:49 AM »
Chris and I talked about a dynothon a few months ago but put the idea on hold during the build.  Now tht Dyno Day is upon us -

Wanna do a quick Dynothon, Chris? 
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7348 on: August 05, 2018, 12:40:26 PM »
Chris and I talked about a dynothon a few months ago but put the idea on hold during the build.  Now tht Dyno Day is upon us -

Wanna do a quick Dynothon, Chris?  

I'd sure like to . . . BUT . . . it won't be this week.

Mark and I just got off the phone.  I ran into an issue on assembly this weekend that has put this endeavor off until World Finals.

The header isn't going to work with the rest of the plumbing.

This is the first time I've actually been able to do a dry-run assembly of all of the pieces, and it is one of the downsides of the "divide-and-conquer" approach that has kept the engine and chassis divorced until now.

What I ran into was that the header runs dangerously close to both the radiator and the oil lines.  I'm completely uncomfortable with this location, and seeing as Mark (and others) were also questioning the header layout, I've elected to have the header reconfigured.

I'm not blaming the header builder on this - I signed off on it, and the actual work is EXCELLENT.   This is simply the tuition one pays when they delve into the great unknowns of engine swaps and other automotive perversions.  

Any "finger pointing" will be directed as follows -

We'll point at the engine and say, "This engine is going into the dyno room at T&T".

Then we'll point at the engine and say, "This dynoed engine is going back into the Midget".

Then we'll point due west and say, "This Midget is going to Bonneville".

I'm still in the garage this week working on it - uninterupted by my job.

But yes - We'll do a "Dynothon".  It's a lot of fun for us, and I love supporting this site in this manner.






« Last Edit: August 05, 2018, 12:42:33 PM by Milwaukee Midget »
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Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7349 on: August 05, 2018, 01:03:54 PM »
And wrapping the exhaust with the lava rock  wrapping won't work for you .??  It makes the exhaust touchable !!   STEVE