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Offline fordboy628

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7320 on: July 29, 2018, 06:39:28 PM »
Yabut . . .

I've lost track of what's gonna happen when (hopefully).

Are you anywhere near schedule?

Schedule has been shot out the ? ? ?

But we are still flogging.

Head has been assembled and finished,
Cams have been fitted and shimmed,
Short block is now back together,
Head gasket has been checked,
Head is now installed,
Chris continues to wire and plumb.

Monday am will see final machining and assembly of the cam drive and final cam timing.   Then a final check of valve to piston clearances.

And we go from there . . . . .

11 or 10 days and counting . . . . . .

Pics and commentary at some later time, depending on blood pressure . . . . .

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7321 on: July 29, 2018, 07:17:57 PM »
Yabut . . .

I've lost track of what's gonna happen when (hopefully).

Are you anywhere near schedule?

Hell, no.

But here's what's going to happen.

I'm going to spend every available minute working on the car.

If things go smoothly, we'll be there Friday.

If they don't go smoothly, we'll be there Monday or Tuesday, not have to wait in line as long, and get a cheaper room rate.

We've got a room reserved on the West End of SLC for the weekend, I've got a tent, if need be, and the tow vehicle is reserved.

Finishing the EFI wiring tonight and tomorrow.

The only pointed fingers are pointed at the dyno room and toward Wendover.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7322 on: July 29, 2018, 09:28:23 PM »
Wells is closer than west end of SLC. Even the Tooele exit (90 or something) FWIW
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7323 on: July 30, 2018, 12:03:21 AM »
... final cylinder head work...
,,, And this is how it's done...
Umm... some secrets not being shared? Where on the head did you reference bore centers (needed for O-ring groove cutting)? I don't even see any dowel holes in the head. How does the head locate on the block's deck?

Tell me more about putting receiver grooves in the block. I've never had a problem with them in heads. And- if O-rings want to fall out of their grooves during assembly (no way turn off gravity), I'd hate to be faced with lowering the block onto the head. :-o
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7324 on: July 30, 2018, 05:02:27 AM »
... final cylinder head work...
,,, And this is how it's done...
Umm... some secrets not being shared?
Where on the head did you reference bore centers (needed for O-ring groove cutting)? I don't even see any dowel holes in the head. How does the head locate on the block's deck?

Tell me more about putting receiver grooves in the block. I've never had a problem with them in heads. And- if O-rings want to fall out of their grooves during assembly (no way turn off gravity), I'd hate to be faced with lowering the block onto the head. :-o

Hi Jack,

Well . . . . yeah, some secrets are not being shared.   It's just a lack of time to process lengthy, typed explanations.   As you may recall, I'm a slow and crappy typist . . . . .

I've recently seen a lot of "fretting" (brinelling) on the heads of high output NOS & nitro engines.   We are not going to be producing anything like the cylinder pressures of those engines, BUT, the K16 has a long and checkered history of a "soft" head that frets easily.   I wanted to give it the best chance.   BTW, the imprint test of the solid copper gasket being used was very good and perfectly concentric.

The head is located on the block by 2 15mm Ø dowels.   We referenced these to the bore centers for both sets of cuts.   Everything lines up very concentric.   Those same block dowels are visible in several of the photos.  It is a bit hard to identify the locating holes in the head photos though.   LOTS of openings on the head face.

The stainless wire o-rings are a press fit in the head.  NO chance of falling out, and therefore a pain in the a** to replace.   Lowering the head onto the stud forest was a piece of cake.   Torqueing the "springs" was a pain.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7325 on: August 02, 2018, 12:11:40 PM »
Well this BattleStar is now complete.   All that remains is the testing.










More details later.   SpeedWeek remains the goal . . . . .

Leaving for Beerhaven, LATER TODAY . . . . .

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7326 on: August 02, 2018, 03:17:32 PM »
More Porn from the BattleStar

Not in any particular order, just some detail shots of various bits, etc.





























No time for captions, maybe later.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7327 on: August 02, 2018, 03:19:51 PM »
Looking forward to the dyno numbers. 8-)

I will predict the thing will make 145+ CBHp at 7000rpm. However that guesstimate is somewhat conservative, methinks. :-o

Best of fortune to you guys on both the dyno and of course on the great white dyno as well. :-D

Enjoy the fruits at the end of the road trip.

Safe towing and racing. :cheers:

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7328 on: August 02, 2018, 03:54:43 PM »
Now I'm starting to get it – it's like an upside-down T-Head, only more complicated.  It's great that they can make a 4-cyl. more complicated than the V-8s us old farts don't know enuf about.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7329 on: August 02, 2018, 04:27:39 PM »
It's just not the project and team members - some of the parts appear to be eccentric, too!  :-D :-D :-D
Keep it up - it's working for you - see ya end of next week!  :cheers: :cheers:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7330 on: August 02, 2018, 07:59:02 PM »
I simply adore the unnecessarily complex 1990's Eurotrash tech aesthetic . . . Reminds me of something one might have seen in an IMSA GTU car, but that you can't quite put your finger on . . .  :cheers:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7331 on: August 02, 2018, 10:58:06 PM »
I was supposed to pick up the motor today - for reasons I won't get in to, it didn't happen, but it will occur Friday.

It's better organized than it appears . . .

1533267208003.temp by Chris Conrad, on Flickr

I've only got 7 more solder connections to make, and once the engine is in place, I'll be able to NEATLY arrange this snake pit.

I've got a pale of 118 octane, a new battery, and all weekend.

It all falls to me at this point.

Mark - put a reserve on the dyno room for Tuesday, please.


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Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

We are NOT rebuilding . . . We are reloading.

GOD SAVE MG - The Queen can take care of herself!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7332 on: August 02, 2018, 11:27:13 PM »
Mark - put a reserve on the dyno room for Tuesday, please.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7333 on: August 03, 2018, 06:17:13 AM »
Chris, I'm free till about 1:30 Saturday. Can I help?

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7334 on: August 03, 2018, 07:11:15 AM »
Don, I'll call you later today.  I'm thinking I might need some help on the hydraulics - probably just a "10 minute job", so, like, a couple of hours?  :-D

Thanks!
"Problems are almost always a sign of progress."  Harold Bettes
Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

We are NOT rebuilding . . . We are reloading.

GOD SAVE MG - The Queen can take care of herself!