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Offline jacksoni

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7275 on: July 22, 2018, 06:38:31 AM »
I am missing a transmission that may be another 7-10 days. I need to leave 8/6.  :-o You have yet to have an engine make smoke (good kind, not what you let out of wires and other stuff accidentally  :roll:). I am really pulling for you to make it. Counting on being able to pay Mark the suds I have for him (and you) in the pits early in the meet.  Keep at it. Will be following things. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7276 on: July 22, 2018, 08:34:57 AM »
I am missing a transmission that may be another 7-10 days. I need to leave 8/6.  :-o You have yet to have an engine make smoke (good kind, not what you let out of wires and other stuff accidentally  :roll:). I am really pulling for you to make it. Counting on being able to pay Mark the suds I have for him (and you) in the pits early in the meet.  Keep at it. Will be following things. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
We're pressing on, Jack.  At this point, I'm simply working on what I can, and so is Mark.
Key is this - we won't make the dance unless we're able to dyno beforehand, but I also need to be sure everything works in the chassis before we dyno.  A buttload of wires facing me, some of which I really can't terminate until the engine is in place.
We can do it, but we're at the point where we can't afford any surprises, and I can't make any miscalculations.
Keep the beer on ice. :cheers:

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Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7277 on: July 22, 2018, 10:45:52 PM »
Dash is in and wired, and SHAZZAM, all the switches work.  Even managed to create a small gusher of fuel when I flipped on the fuel pump switch . . . :roll:

I pulled the top off to make easier access to the interior, cleaned up and painted the floorboards and tunnel - even industrial grey gets dingy looking after 4 years of non-use.

Battery is charged up and securely in place, wired up a 20 V volt meter, which the new 16 volt battery spun to 19.  Set up the return line with a -6 fitting.  Fuel filter bracket is due in tomorrow, and I think I can flare the stainless main line onto the end of the filter, which will give everything a bit more support.  I know where the intake lines up in the chassis and I have the regulator ready to go, so I'm shooting to have that end of the plumbing handled tomorrow night.

Taking the Holley Digital Dash into work to build a bracket during lunch.  That will fit square on with the steering column.

I hadn't sat in this thing for almost a year, but it provided a reminder as to why we do this. 
"Problems are almost always a sign of progress."  Harold Bettes
Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

We are NOT rebuilding . . . We are reloading.

GOD SAVE MG - The Queen can take care of herself!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7278 on: July 23, 2018, 06:51:19 AM »
I was going to ask if you had the specialist Lucas part # 530433 on hand for your re-wiring but Dash is in and wired, and SHAZZAM, all the switches work suggests you are not using any Lucas bits.

I am told that electrical smoke is interchangeable so you could use Ford or Mopar smoke but when I had the Mk1 Midget and the Europa I preferred to use Lucas smoke - especially as it is more readily available.

Good luck and Godspeed to everyone heading to the salt in August - I wish I was there.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7279 on: July 23, 2018, 09:47:32 AM »
I was going to ask if you had the specialist Lucas part # 530433 on hand for your re-wiring but Dash is in and wired, and SHAZZAM, all the switches work suggests you are not using any Lucas bits.


Part of the "Brexit" accord . . . Lord Lucas, "Prince of Darkness", has been ostracized, exiled and banished from the Pommy Pygmy Playhouse forever more, ne'er to spread his evil and vile stench and frustrations upon the good peoples of Beerhaven or Bonneville again.

« Last Edit: July 23, 2018, 12:03:03 PM by Milwaukee Midget »
"Problems are almost always a sign of progress."  Harold Bettes
Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

We are NOT rebuilding . . . We are reloading.

GOD SAVE MG - The Queen can take care of herself!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7280 on: July 23, 2018, 10:35:38 PM »
I kinda like this -

dash by Chris Conrad, on Flickr

I could have wired or plumbed in:
1. A Tach
2. An Oil Pressure gauge
3. A Fuel Pressure Gauge
4. A Temp Gauge

Or I can plug this directly into the ECU, customize their positions on the screen and have everything right between my hands.

Let's hope it works.
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Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

We are NOT rebuilding . . . We are reloading.

GOD SAVE MG - The Queen can take care of herself!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7281 on: July 23, 2018, 11:58:17 PM »
Has Lord Lucas made it past 7-segment character displays? :roll:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7282 on: July 24, 2018, 07:13:38 AM »
Has Lord Lucas made it past 7-segment character displays? :roll:

Lord Lucas has been torn asunder in a Machiavellian coup toward the goal of digitization.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2018, 08:13:22 AM by Milwaukee Midget »
"Problems are almost always a sign of progress."  Harold Bettes
Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

We are NOT rebuilding . . . We are reloading.

GOD SAVE MG - The Queen can take care of herself!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7283 on: July 24, 2018, 10:22:24 AM »
If you haven't already, add a low oil pressure idiot light. It will be the best $20 you ever spend.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7284 on: July 24, 2018, 11:47:01 AM »
Chris;

Digital displays have one very serious problem-- you can't read the screen in bright sunlight. This is why the military pays big bucks for "sunlight readable" displays and indicators. The other problems are that unless the software generates an analog gauge display, you are reading numbers, not glancing at the relative angle of a needle. Synthesizing an analog display on such a small digital display won't result in a very readable output.

I'd mount a tach and oil pressure gauge directly in front and the water temp and fuel pressure further over in the dash where you have room. Those are secondary parameters that don't need to be checked frequently.  Just my opinion...FWIW.  :-P

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7285 on: July 24, 2018, 12:24:19 PM »
Hi, guys - and as always, thanks.

The big advantage to this system is that it's customizable.  The displays can be analog analagous, ie, display like a gauge rather than a calculator, and I can set up warning light parameters.  So if the OP drops below "X", the display will show a warning light, and while I haven't got too deeply into it, I believe the ECU can be programmed to shut down in the event of a severe OP drop.

Additionally, I can wire in the signal from the Accusump to trigger a different light, so that if it's operating, I'm aware of it.

It's allegedly readable in bright light and the lighting is adjustable, as are the colors and gauge presentations.  The reviews I've seen are pretty positive regarding readability.

The cockpit of the Midget is actually rather dark - not a lot of light gets directly in.

It also serves as a data logger display, so I don't have to plug the computer in every time I want to check events.

Generally, I'm a fan of redundancies.

And generally, I'm a fan of redundancies.

But I am up against it.

I guess if it's a problem, I'll know in a few weeks.   

"Problems are almost always a sign of progress."  Harold Bettes
Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

We are NOT rebuilding . . . We are reloading.

GOD SAVE MG - The Queen can take care of herself!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7286 on: July 24, 2018, 11:06:27 PM »
Mark has the valvetrain 75% shimmed, the pistons are allegedly in the trusty hands of UPS with a possibility of delivery Wednesday, in which case I'll be in Illinois tomorrow.  Fuel lines are mocked up and ready to be fit when the engine arrives.  Still a lot to do, but I'm undeterred.
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Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

We are NOT rebuilding . . . We are reloading.

GOD SAVE MG - The Queen can take care of herself!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7287 on: July 25, 2018, 05:56:24 AM »
trusty hands of UPS with a "possibility" of delivery Wednesday,

Emphasis mine. Surely is an oxymoron.

For this reason I drove 5.5hrs yesterday and paid more in tax than the shipping cost to get my trans.( they did it sooner than suggested) to avoid the "trusty hands of UPS" 8-)
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7288 on: July 25, 2018, 08:14:56 AM »
trusty hands of UPS with a "possibility" of delivery Wednesday,

Emphasis mine. Surely is an oxymoron.

For this reason I drove 5.5hrs yesterday and paid more in tax than the shipping cost to get my trans.( they did it sooner than suggested) to avoid the "trusty hands of UPS" 8-)

Truth be told, I've had good luck with the brown shirt Santas.  That said, I've heard horror stories as well.

My experience has been that regular shippers with systematized procedures and relationships with UPS have very few problems.  It's the folks that ship something 2 or 3 times a year, or who are shipping something unusual, are the ones that have had problems.

Welcome to the crap shoot . . .
"Problems are almost always a sign of progress."  Harold Bettes
Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

We are NOT rebuilding . . . We are reloading.

GOD SAVE MG - The Queen can take care of herself!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7289 on: July 25, 2018, 10:50:38 AM »
It varies. I think we are near the end of their route. They (includes FedEx too) go home for a beer. Say I wasn't home, business closed or the address is wrong, all of which are "lies". Sometimes is couple days delay or over weekend- just when am in hurry for something. Annoying.
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