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Offline Milwaukee Midget

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7155 on: May 19, 2018, 02:39:40 PM »
1/2 thick.

Not sure of the diameters of the holes on the centerlines, or for that matter, even if they need to be drilled - they appear to be alternate axial references for the drawing - the center four, all 3".

The starter bolts are known to flatlanders alone . . .  :wink:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7156 on: May 19, 2018, 04:30:42 PM »
Weekend Update, dos . . . . . .

As promised:  Crankenshaften Spinnin' mit flywheel und pressure plate.   Freitag happenin's below ze "curtain"

The day's progress:

A/    Balance check of the billet crankshaft . . . zehr gut, both ends . . .


2/    Balance check after adding the flywheel . . . .   front: zehr gut    rear: not zo gut
Added pressure plate to assembly . . .  needed to add weight to pressure plate with a small weld bead.


d/    Marking of the flywheel and pressure plate for assembly reference.


Oh yeah, there were bolts installed for the balance.

So, wheels are turning in the background, while you wire the zoo for sound . . . . .

TTF a few days, vacation beckons . . . . .

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7157 on: May 19, 2018, 04:35:32 PM »

1/2 thick.

The starter bolts are known to flatlanders alone . . .  :wink:


2 x 1/4-20 SHCS, safety wired.    In conjunction with a yet to be fabricated rear support bracket, also safety wired.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7158 on: May 20, 2018, 10:48:39 PM »
I was not expecting the balance action to come about this quickly - THANKS, MARK!


The old pressure plate has a small washer welded on to it to bring it into balance, as well.  Meah - steel stamping - if all it took was a weld bead, that's actually pretty good, in my opinion.


Yesterday was shot with work, but today, I put the finishing touches on the brake box - it's finished and fireblocked.  Plumbed up the brake line, installed the front air springs and repinned the front suspension bolts.

I've got a stainless steel order to place with Burns tomorrow, and we should have a header to work with in a couple of weeks.


I think I've also figured out a double sheer solution for the motor struts - with any luck, utilizing the original A-Series motor mount brackets.  
« Last Edit: May 21, 2018, 11:00:07 AM by Milwaukee Midget »
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7159 on: May 21, 2018, 07:50:59 AM »

I was not expecting the balance action to come about this quickly - THANKS, MARK!

The old pressure place has a small washer welded on to it to bring it into balance, as well.  Meah - steel stamping - if all it took was a weld bead, that's actually pretty good, in my opinion.


Thanks!    But it is time to get crackin' . . . .

Finishing the cylinder head will be my focus when I return.    I expect to be finished early to mid June.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7160 on: May 21, 2018, 07:59:54 AM »

I've got a stainless steel order to place with Burns tomorrow, and we should have a header to work with in a couple of weeks.


Burns is the original, and probably the "Cadillac" of stainless, but if you have the time and want to check prices on SS tubing, bends, collectors, etc:

Specialty Products Design, Inc:
http://www.spdexhaust.com/index.html

Stainless Headers Mfg:
http://www.stainlessheaders.com/mandrelbends

I forget who Viking boy uses, (NOT Burns), those pipes are very nice . . . . .  give him a call if you wish.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7161 on: May 21, 2018, 12:00:40 PM »
I just bought some parts from www.aceraceparts.com.

Ace Race was easy to deal with, and reasonably priced

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7162 on: May 28, 2018, 10:30:23 PM »
Mrs. Fordboy sent me a picture of Mark drinking beer after doing some thrift shopping in Iowa . . .

IMG_20180521_162756573 by Chris Conrad, on Flickr


Despite the inclusion of the word "gambrious", I still question the authenticity of the photo - Mark usually wears camo and glasses . . .


Anyway, a quick little pic of potential clearance issues with respect to the clutch slave.  We were running a 4AN fitting - might be a little tight, and thinking a 3 might be sufficient.  This new slave has a canted bung which points toward the frame rail, and might interfere. . . .


IMG_20180528_220023946 by Chris Conrad, on Flickr





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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7163 on: May 29, 2018, 01:53:55 AM »
in case of a clash, how about a flexible line and a remote bleed point..?

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7164 on: May 29, 2018, 06:10:51 AM »
100% agree with flexible line and remote bleed. All the hydraulic throw out bearings have them. Lifesaver. And a small "persuader" will help clearance on the frame rail in any case..... :wink:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7165 on: May 29, 2018, 07:49:07 AM »
in case of a clash, how about a flexible line and a remote bleed point..?

100% agree with flexible line and remote bleed. All the hydraulic throw out bearings have them. Lifesaver. And a small "persuader" will help clearance on the frame rail in any case..... :wink:

ANYBODY who has tried to bleed the slave on a Spridget has cussed up a blue streak.  The stock drivetrain was based on the Morris Minor, and while I'm sure there was plenty of room to access the bleeder under one of these, it sure disappeared when they tried to integrate the drivetrain into a unibody design.  Mark set me up with a very cool remote bleeder and AN line last time, and it works marvelously.  We'll be able to reintegrate that.

This time around, we ARE using a flexible line from the master, and that's due primarily to the relocation of the drivetrain back in the chassis.  The standard combination of hard line and flexible hose won't work with the new engine location, and it also makes engine removal much easier.

I'm looking forward to the day when I can put this engine in and LEAVE IT IN PLACE.  The engine hoist is taking up too much space in my garage . . .
« Last Edit: May 29, 2018, 08:56:04 AM by Milwaukee Midget »
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7166 on: May 29, 2018, 09:08:31 AM »
Chris - the answer to your problems!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyhook_%28structure%29 :roll:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7167 on: May 29, 2018, 09:42:29 AM »
Chris - the answer to your problems!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyhook_%28structure%29 :roll:

Perfect.

The next time some buttmunch comes up to me and says, "Do you know what your problem is?", I can confidently look that person in the eye and say without hesitation,
 "Yes I do!  I lack a skyhook!"

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7168 on: May 29, 2018, 11:11:37 AM »
You might consider a dry break fitting in the line from the master cyl. to the slave. It has worked well for me, the engine has been out 3 times and I have not yet needed to bleed the clutch.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7169 on: May 29, 2018, 06:30:35 PM »
You might consider a dry break fitting in the line from the master cyl. to the slave. It has worked well for me, the engine has been out 3 times and I have not yet needed to bleed the clutch.

That could work if I mount the bleed manifold onto the adapter plate - otherwise, I'd need two.

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"Problems are almost always a sign of progress."  Harold Bettes
Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

We are NOT rebuilding . . . We are reloading.

GOD SAVE MG - The Queen can take care of herself!