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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6240 on: April 10, 2017, 04:15:40 AM »

I'm delighted to hear that I wasn't the only Arkley user. POF593G was mine; horrific by modern standards but a bucket of fun 30 years ago. Loose steering sounds like a bad idea, though, surely? Mine didn't really go where it was pointed until I'd freshened all the wearable bits of front suspension.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6241 on: April 10, 2017, 09:10:38 AM »
Thanks for the Gurney concurences, gentlemen.  Especially you, Mark. Apex Humbuggery United!  :cheers:

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6242 on: April 10, 2017, 09:22:49 AM »
Question ... What Car Designer won in F-1 driving a car he designed and built himself?

Dan Gurney

I believe Jack Brabham and Bruce McLaren also fall into this category.


Yes, I believe those gentlemen should also be included.

I'm wondering though, how much of the "design work" was actually done by those 3.    I know Ron Tauranac was the designer @ Brabham and was also a principal of the firm from the outset.  The late Carroll Smith was a big fan of Tauranac.     I just don't know the details for the other two firms.   Back in the day, a lot of the "design work" was done by "committee".    And, true to form, MANY major changes in a design, address MFU's and various other things that are a maintenance PITA.   I have direct experience here, and so will midget, once he decides to "fix" the front end geometry of the lowered MM.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6243 on: April 10, 2017, 09:35:39 AM »
Apex Humbuggery United!  :cheers:

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Vic,

Next time you are in or near Chicago, you MUST revisit the "Apex Humbuggery".   I'll even meet up with you there.

It's Apex Automotive now, Bill has (owns??) the whole building, his son Willie is there also, AND, (drumroll please . . . ) Raghead #1 is still employed there.   AND, it is pretty much the same . . . . . . . go figure.

Oh, I'm buying.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6244 on: April 10, 2017, 09:48:39 AM »

Question ... What Car Designer won in F-1 driving a car he designed and built himself?

Dan Gurney

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Not a correction, just additional information:

http://rontauranac.com.au/

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6245 on: April 10, 2017, 09:58:37 AM »
I have direct experience here, and so will midget, once he decides to "fix" the front end geometry of the lowered MM.

 :cheers:

I've been toying with the Sparky approach of a pair of custom Podunk wheels with motorcycle racing tires - narrower and shorter, spindle mounted - which will get the geometry back to a reasonable location and keep the low ride height, yet maintain enough suspension travel that the return road doesn't hammer the bump stops.
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« Reply #6246 on: April 10, 2017, 12:36:33 PM »
I found project mantis lotus elise on facebook a while ago, not knowing he is running a rover k series engine. He just posted his engine pieces/plan for making it live around 400+hp with a turbo. If you havent heard of it, its a place for engine knowledge, if you have, then i am old hat...

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6247 on: April 10, 2017, 12:55:13 PM »
I found project mantis lotus elise on facebook a while ago, not knowing he is running a rover k series engine. He just posted his engine pieces/plan for making it live around 400+hp with a turbo. If you havent heard of it, its a place for engine knowledge, if you have, then i am old hat...

Thanks, CM - I just checked it out.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6248 on: April 10, 2017, 11:32:56 PM »
I always thought motorsickle tars were meant to lean in turns, not stay bolt upright. Hence, be totally unsuitable for cars. I am willing to be wrong. In fact, I'd love to be wrong because I'd like to run them on the Tank.  :roll: Wayno

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6249 on: April 11, 2017, 12:42:49 AM »
Boy Racer :) :

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at 65mph+.  Just fine around town, but I had some high-speed shimmy & shake so I took them off.  Turned out one of the 4-inchers was heavily cracked on several bolt holes that could only be seen from the back side.  I plan on trying it again (real soon) with two good wheels.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6250 on: April 11, 2017, 01:16:17 AM »
I have direct experience here, and so will midget, once he decides to "fix" the front end geometry of the lowered MM.

 :cheers:

I've been toying with the Sparky approach of a pair of custom Podunk wheels with motorcycle racing tires - narrower and shorter, spindle mounted - which will get the geometry back to a reasonable location and keep the low ride height, yet maintain enough suspension travel that the return road doesn't hammer the bump stops.

I'm sure you already know but according to 2.F you need permission to run the MC tires.

That said, I know of a very fast VW that runs them on all fours and says they handle good.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6251 on: April 11, 2017, 06:29:36 AM »
I always thought motorsickle tars were meant to lean in turns, not stay bolt upright. Hence, be totally unsuitable for cars. I am willing to be wrong. In fact, I'd love to be wrong because I'd like to run them on the Tank.  :roll: Wayno

Similarly, car tars can't be used on said motorsickle 'cause they can't lean over right...... :evil:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6252 on: April 11, 2017, 09:33:23 AM »
Be advised that there is just over .100" difference in bead diameter between motorcycle & auto wheels/tires. Auto are larger.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6253 on: April 11, 2017, 10:15:52 AM »
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6254 on: April 11, 2017, 11:42:11 AM »
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