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« Reply #1336 on: August 03, 2012, 08:12:33 PM » |
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They had a simple template, it didn't fit. Heard he challenged them on it and had them check it on another car in the parking lot, it didn't fit that one either and in all the same places. Seems his shop had built that car too.  |
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« Reply #1337 on: August 03, 2012, 10:12:20 PM » |
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In those days they measured everything with a tape measure.
The last time I talked to Smokey ( about 13 years ago ) I told that I was doing Bonneville things. He said " The thing I like about Bonneville is You build your sheetbox and I'll build mine and we will see which one of the somebitchs goes the fastest. If your car is faster I just did not work hard enough."
If you knew Smokey, that is the way he felt about racing.
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« Reply #1338 on: August 04, 2012, 12:20:42 PM » |
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In those days they measured everything with a tape measure.
The last time I talked to Smokey ( about 13 years ago ) I told that I was doing Bonneville things. He said " The thing I like about Bonneville is You build your sheetbox and I'll build mine and we will see which one of the somebitchs goes the fastest. If your car is faster I just did not work hard enough."
If you knew Smokey, that is the way he felt about racing.
Doug in Big Ditch
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« Reply #1339 on: August 04, 2012, 12:49:38 PM » |
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In those days they measured everything with a tape measure.
The last time I talked to Smokey ( about 13 years ago ) I told that I was doing Bonneville things. He said " The thing I like about Bonneville is You build your sheetbox and I'll build mine and we will see which one of the somebitchs goes the fastest. If your car is faster I just did not work hard enough."
If you knew Smokey, that is the way he felt about racing.
Doug in Big Ditch
Smokey on book tape is a great listen while driving to Bonneville! I agree Tman, a great way to pass time. He knew his way around the rules. |
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« Reply #1340 on: August 04, 2012, 01:34:16 PM » |
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Smokey on book tape is a great listen while driving to Bonneville!
Did he do the reading? I'll have to seek that out. Okay, block is done and I got the last restrictor plug out with no damage to the block, thankyouverymuch. The head came back today after a .060 haircut. The head skim was a bit harrowing. When you slice cheese this thin, you sometimes discover Swiss cheese –  It’s just the water jacket on the face, which both Mel and Fordboy agree should not be an issue. A dab of HT silicone against the face and against the gasket should keep it from leaking, but this is an indication of just how extreme this combination is being stretched. Part of the issue is the lack of cylinder capacity with respect to chamber capacity. In order to get a CR that will produce power, the chamber needs to be as small as possible, so pushing things to the limit – and in this case, a tad beyond - is what needed to be done. I’ll be scrubbing up the castings this evening, and next week, I’ll meet up with Fordboy, he'll cc the chambers and we’ll see what out final CR is going to clock in at. |
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« Reply #1342 on: August 09, 2012, 11:46:30 PM » |
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While the rest of the world is in Wendover –
After quite a bit of back and forth between Fordboy, Dema Elgin and myself, we have settled on a grind that will fit the rather tight confines of the combustion chamber of the Midget. There are a quintabazillion grinds for the A-series, and none of the readily available stock grinds would give me the lift and acceleration/deceleration rates I needed to have without crashing the valves. After reams of documentation, notes, graphs and charts, much of which I’m just starting to have a better, if not complete understanding of, Dema came up with a lobe pattern that will work with my rather small lifters and still get me better than .500 lift rather quickly.
Fordboy, I am in your debt for the hours of slide rule work you put into this.
The lobe is a .350 lift, 252 duration at .050, ground on a 108 LCAs. For a comparison, the cam that was in it was .340 lift, 264 duration @ .050 on 105.5 and 102.5 advertised centerlines (scatter pattern).
I’ve ditched the scatter pattern principal this time, not because it’s not a good idea, but because the clearances are very tight at and around TDC. Additionally, to have to deal with two differing cam lobe center angles left reduced margins for error or adjustment. This grind is in keeping with the general comment from David Vizard as to what he thought the engine probably needed, and verified by what Fordboy’s research lead to.
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« Reply #1343 on: August 12, 2012, 07:43:25 PM » |
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Deep in the bowels of the laboratories of Professor Fordboy – Adjunct professor of A-block studies, University of Abingdon, Great Lakes Campus . . .
Egghead Junior labors over the dusted antiquities of a lost civilization, and discovers an oracle, filled with a wealth of ancient secrets – secrets long buried in the graveyard that is the advance of human endeavor . . .
So now we’re looking for a dot matrix printer, a VGA cable and a spool of two color ribbon.
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« Reply #1344 on: August 12, 2012, 11:35:01 PM » |
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Geeeze Chris, I've got all three I think but it's a long haul and isn't 110V.  Not 100% sure on the cable. All three items are on Ebay though. Cheers, Rob |
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« Reply #1345 on: August 13, 2012, 12:00:21 AM » |
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Geeeze Chris, I've got all three I think but it's a long haul and isn't 110V. Not 100% sure on the cable. All three items are on Ebay though. Cheers, Rob I'm sure they're available locally, but thanks, brother! There's a bit of science and sorcery going on – something about the weight of ducks, wood, the use of large scales . . . I'll let him tell the story when the cauldron cools. |
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« Reply #1346 on: August 13, 2012, 12:25:50 AM » |
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Bubble, bubble, toil and trouble....  |
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« Reply #1347 on: August 13, 2012, 10:30:21 AM » |
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Geeeze Chris, I've got all three I think but it's a long haul and isn't 110V. Not 100% sure on the cable. All three items are on Ebay though. Cheers, Rob Rob, Thanks for the offer, but I've found away to interface 'Frankenputer' (my 1990 intel 80386-20 engineering computer, "It's alive!!!!"), to my current color printer. Once I'm able to printout existing cam profiles in color, I will post 'cam porn' to Midget's Build Diary!! from the bowels of the dungeon,  FrankenFordboy |
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Does paying attention to all the "little details" matter? I dunno, but I think you should ask the guy who finishes second..................
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« Reply #1348 on: August 13, 2012, 11:09:02 AM » |
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Whooohooo!!
Summer was getting so boring. Now something to occupy that strange part of my brain. Bring on the plotted plot of the rise and fall of ingress egress.
Chris, check with some race engine builders to get the latest on head gasket sealing for the increased engine cooling openings.
I'm going back to figure out how I am ever going to get out of my car after I get all the safety stuff in.
Geo
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« Reply #1349 on: August 13, 2012, 12:43:34 PM » |
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Hey Midget, Back in the old days.....still today for some of us....Graphing the lift vs rotation data on old fashioned graph paper got the job done. That way when some wag asks, "where is the cam?" you can say with clarity of purpose - "In the engine".  BTW- How are you going to get out of the car once you stuff yourself in that thing? An ejection air bag?  Seriously, it has been fun following your build. BMC stuff is more of a challenge than most realize. Best Regards to All, HB2  |
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