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Re: A streamliner configuration no one has tried
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2008, 03:29:10 PM »
Brian,

That didn't long.

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Re: A streamliner configuration no one has tried
« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2008, 04:01:33 PM »
Brian,

That didn't long.

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Re: A streamliner configuration no one has tried
« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2008, 04:34:05 PM »
Mr. Ratliff:

Please -- settle down a bit.  While we encourage one and all to post on this forum, your dictum that we'll have to ban this vehicle or that based on some point of design -- is fine, within reason -- but should be directed at those who could possibly enact a ban.  I hope you'd agree that the propulsion added by the exhaust is relatively small (compared to that from the driven wheels).  If not they vehicles would fall under the definition of thrust-powered vehicles and would already be banned, wouldn't they?

I look forward to seeing more of your posts, but sure do hope they are a little more tactful when suggesting that the sanctioning organizations do some particular thing.  Ideas and discussions are fine -- dictums are more than we need here.  Thanks.
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Re: A streamliner configuration no one has tried
« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2008, 05:03:11 PM »
Mr. Ratliff:

Please -- settle down a bit.  While we encourage one and all to post on this forum, your dictum that we'll have to ban this vehicle or that based on some point of design -- is fine, within reason -- but should be directed at those who could possibly enact a ban.  I hope you'd agree that the propulsion added by the exhaust is relatively small (compared to that from the driven wheels).  If not they vehicles would fall under the definition of thrust-powered vehicles and would already be banned, wouldn't they?

I look forward to seeing more of your posts, but sure do hope they are a little more tactful when suggesting that the sanctioning organizations do some particular thing.  Ideas and discussions are fine -- dictums are more than we need here.  Thanks.

Thanks, Slim.

Goldenrod and Challenger were built over forty years ago. I know of a new team that has studied how the headers on Goldenrod were configured, but otherwise the idea that residual thrust can be recovered from engine exhaust seems to have been largely ignored or forgotten in land speed racing. However, it is something that Top Fuel and Funny Car teams understand well.
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Re: A streamliner configuration no one has tried
« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2008, 06:39:00 PM »
I was talking to one of the guys on the crew of the Clark-Smith-Hall-Leggitt lakester at WOS last year and he was saying how their headers were designed to aid in streamlining, getting the air to flow over the back wheels, and I think he said that they would provide some thrust. Not sure about the thrust part.
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« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2008, 07:12:28 PM »
Mr. Ratliff:

Please -- settle down a bit.  While we encourage one and all to post on this forum, your dictum that we'll have to ban this vehicle or that based on some point of design -- is fine, within reason -- but should be directed at those who could possibly enact a ban.  I hope you'd agree that the propulsion added by the exhaust is relatively small (compared to that from the driven wheels).  If not they vehicles would fall under the definition of thrust-powered vehicles and would already be banned, wouldn't they?

I look forward to seeing more of your posts, but sure do hope they are a little more tactful when suggesting that the sanctioning organizations do some particular thing.  Ideas and discussions are fine -- dictums are more than we need here.  Thanks.

Slim and others:

I and others have found Ratliff's postings and drivel too much to take and from now on I and others only see the following when he responds "This user is currently ignored" to a post so we do not waste time either opening or viewing something we care nothing about.

It is the little box under your name on the far left hand side, if anyone feels it necessary to "ignore" my posts, my feelings will not be hurt. 8-)

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Re: A streamliner configuration no one has tried
« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2008, 07:26:49 PM »
John, I new you were my hero!

I forgot about the ignore button. "FR" certainly deserves it. Aliens and space ships and Franklin, Oh My!

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Re: A streamliner configuration no one has tried
« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2008, 07:49:21 PM »
I've been doing as John suggested for the last several days...Mikey likes the Ignore Button!

I also agree with Dean's last sentence.

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Re: A streamliner configuration no one has tried
« Reply #38 on: May 28, 2008, 08:49:12 PM »
I've been doing as John suggested for the last several days...Mikey likes the Ignore Button!

I also agree with Dean's last sentence.

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Re: A streamliner configuration no one has tried
« Reply #39 on: May 28, 2008, 09:31:02 PM »
jack and kent come back we can all learn from you guys   willie buchta
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Re: A streamliner configuration no one has tried
« Reply #40 on: May 28, 2008, 09:45:24 PM »
Willie,

You only have 1 person "ignoring you".. :mrgreen:

Most likely Sheri after you "dumped" her.. :-P

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Re: A streamliner configuration no one has tried
« Reply #41 on: May 28, 2008, 10:21:29 PM »
im an opinionated asshole and i cant say that i blame whoever it is   willie buchta
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Re: A streamliner configuration no one has tried
« Reply #42 on: May 28, 2008, 10:31:15 PM »
I see this thread has run it's course... But... I tried this configuration when I was a kid. Welded 2 bicycles together, but only had 1 wheel driven. The front and back steering wheels were linked with a tube and a "homebrew" Heim joint on each end. It went in a straight line just fine... when I went to turn the front wheel it plowed, and the back wheel skidded. I suppose if the wheels were "close coupled" it wouldn't be much of a problem, but if you stretch the wheelbase out you're going to have problems. If you doubt my observations... build a model and check it out for your self :-D. I ended up building the conventional clown bike with bent wheels, and a steering wheel.

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Re: A streamliner configuration no one has tried
« Reply #43 on: May 28, 2008, 11:03:03 PM »
Oh John, ignore works great!!

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« Reply #44 on: May 28, 2008, 11:16:51 PM »
Oh John, ignore works great!!

Thanks,
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No worries Dan... :mrgreen: