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Offline donpearsall

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Any procedural changes to the BUB meet?
« on: May 05, 2008, 12:21:30 PM »
Registration for BUB ends on June 1. I am trying to decide if I go or not, but need more info. Does anyone know if they have "cleaned up their act" since last year? I was there all week last year and it was just an organizational mess and not a very fun experience. Long, long lines, and not very many runs. Very frustrating. The problems were discussed on the forums at length right after the event, but I have not heard if BUB has fixed the problems.

Anyone have inside info?
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Don
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Offline Uncle Jimbo

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Re: Any procedural changes to the BUB meet?
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2008, 02:27:44 PM »
Greetings Don - Sorry you had problems with last years BUB event on the salt. Try and remember that the event has nearly doubled in attendance every year since it started. Personnaly Iam glad to see a Mcy. only event so we'r not having to deal with a surface that may be chewed up by 4 wheel traffic. Nothing against the car guys & gals ! Last year it was well known they were looking for additional help during the event. After a couple passes, the ole Gray Ghost wobbled out a keyway on the main shaft that ended our racing for the week. Knowing that, I volunteered to help out in whatever way they needed. The entire group of BUB volunteers are super people, under big preasure, doing a task that may be unfamiliar to their daily routine. I plan on doing the same this year, except for the keyway problem. There will be changes this year, and Iam sure it will be in the best interest of all competators. You can easily get more explicit answers from Delvene or Linnea at ;  www.bubspeedtrials.com or call at 530-272-4310
While your at it, maybe you or part of your crew would like to volunteer some time and help make things run smoothly.
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Re: Any procedural changes to the BUB meet?
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2008, 04:43:57 PM »
The DLRA will be trialing a system (if we ever get to race again) every racer and team must volunteer at least 4 hours before /during/after the meet or they dont race ,it not fair for some to do all the work and many of those are trying to race as well , maybe Bubs should look at a similar system  :-)
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Re: Any procedural changes to the BUB meet?
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2008, 09:37:50 AM »
I got this overnight from the Bub's people.  Please read and pay attention if you're planning to attend that event.  Jon.  (Copied material follows):

Dear All,

Just another friendly reminder that the pre-entry deadline for the BUB Speed Trials is coming up June 2nd 2008.

Remember your form must be completed and emailed/faxed/mailed to the BUB office no later than Midnight June 2nd 2008 (mailed entry forms must be postmarked by that date).
We will contact within 24 hours that we have received your entry form. If you provide an email address- your receipt confirmation will be emailed, if not we will phone in your confirmation.

We cannot complete entry forms over the phone, the only information we will accept over the phone is credit card information and motorcycle class details (for those that are still not sure- this may be completed later). We have not yet charged cards or cashed checks for entries for those that have sent them in. We will be processing payment in the week following the deadline, please ensure you have enough funds/credit available as you will not be officially entered until payment has been processed and the entry form is COMPLETE.

FIM Entries
If you have been an FIM participant at a previous BUB meet, and your motorcycle is EXACTLY the same, the FIM will not require you to include photographs of your motorcycle. The photos that have been issued previously on file with the FIM will be sufficient.
For ALL FIM participants, photos are not required of your race leathers or helmet. These will be inspected at the event.

If you plan on attempting a WORLD RECORD and if you have not requested/received and FIM licensing and world record application packet you need to contact BUB. The FIM will not accept application past the deadline. The FIM licensing and application deadline is June 16th so you still have some time.

Run Watcha Brung Entries
We still have some spaces left for Run Watcha Brung. Spaces will be limited to 100.


IMPROVEMENTS FOR 2008
We have had some requests for information regarding improvements made for 2008. While we have spoken to a number of folks regarding this, we thought to pass on the information. We are still a young event, and we take your constructive suggestions seriously. We instituted a number of rule changes per your request, to both fall in line with other LSR events, and to better streamline the event procedures. We thank you for your cooperation and understanding as we have grown (from 71 in the 1st year, to 93, 160 and 348 in years 2,3 and 4 respectively). Any new event will have growing pains, and we endeavor to improve each year with that growth. Each year has presented a new learning curve for us and we believe that the following should improve various areas of the event:

RULE CHANGES:
* 5% Rule (Rule 1.H. AMA Sups). All motorcycles must be at or above the existing record to qualify for a return pass. Previously you were required to be within 5%. This will reduce the number of return runs.

* Record attempt are over 2 consecutive runs (Rule 1.H. AMA Sups). All record attempts will be made in a pair. If the consecutive pair of runs does not exceed the existing record, the motorcycle must return the pre-staging line and re-qualify.

*175mph long course (Rule 1.F. AMA Sups) all motorcycles on the long course require a 'sticker' to pass the starting line. This will eliminate unqualified bikes running the long course.

* Termination of record run (Rule 1.H. AMA sups). 'Termination of a record run will be done for a turn our, engine power failure, or interruption, after a motorcycle has left the starting line'. All motorcycles that for any reason stop after leaving the starting line will be required to return to the pre-staging line. The RWB track is available for test runs.

EVENT PROCEDRES/CHANGES
*Additional 5-mile course. We will run 2 tracks, with 4 courses this year. We will have the International Course, consisting of an 11-mile (dependant on course cond) and a 5-mile, as laid out in previous years. And we will have a Mountain Course (mountain side of the pits) with a 5-mile short course and the RWB 3 mile course. A majority of our participants run the 5-mile courses. All FIM participants will run on the International course- long or short (so that the FIM steward does not have to be on 2 courses at once). AMA short course participants will be divided between the 2 5 mile courses. This will permit a better flow of vehicles. BOTH Tracks will be fully certified for Records.

*Limiting entries for RWB. We do not wish, at this stage, to limit the numbers of entries, however RWB will be limited to allow running time for record attempts.

*Not guaranteeing that participants can enter at the meet. Dependant on our pre-entry number, we may not permit entries on the salt, other than changes in class. In 2007, we had 160 pre-entered, almost 200 entered during the meet, when more participant enter at the meet than pre enter- it puts a large unexpected strain on procedures and staff. Disallowing this should enable us to ensure that we have enough facilities in place to handle the participants that are entered.

*Pre-stage: One line to rule them all! The pre-staging line will move out of the pit area (closer to the starting lines). All motorcycles must form one line (possibly two if space requires it). Motorcycles will be distributed to the appropriate course. Motorcycles cannot be left unattended. There will be no 'list'. You will know how many people are in front of you, by counting how many people are in front of you. All motorcycles in line must be race ready (trailering is permitted). Streamliners will be permitted, with pre-staging authorization, to stage at the '0', however they must have a crewmember wait in line. Streamliner will be the only crews that are permitted to have a support vehicle in lieu of their race vehicle in pre-staging.

* Rider's handbook. We are in the process of completing a 'Rider's handbook' that will assist with procedures, do's and don't and general info to help riders complete what they need. This will be sent out to participants that pre-enter with their confirmation packet.

*Praying for better weather.... no wind delays, no rain, no wind storms... though this is the one thing that we cannot control!

The above information is a brief guideline of our plans for 2008. There may be some changes, however in reviewing submitted suggestion forms, reviewing our procedures and adapting them for the growing numbers we believe that the combination of adjustments will contribute to a smoother event.

Lastly- we would like to add that, as always, we need volunteers to assist with the smooth running of the event. Sparing one (or all) of your crew for a 4-hour shift makes a difference to us. Each year we have a number of participants that manage to work and race- to those we thank you. If you have anyone that would like to contribute to the event by becoming a volunteer please contact Delvene at BUB.





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Re: Any procedural changes to the BUB meet?
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2008, 03:26:07 PM »
To me it looks like they are making a concerted effort to make things better than last year and I liked what I read.  Of course I won't be racing there, but will attend if it looks like they have a good 11 mile course like 2 years ago,

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