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« on: March 02, 2008, 10:39:56 PM » |
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Is it the most aerodynamic fairing there is? If so what is close in comparison? If not, what is?
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2008, 09:57:11 AM » |
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Dustbin fairing with Toy seat....................................
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2008, 10:50:32 AM » |
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Is it the most aerodynamic fairing there is? If so what is close in comparison? If not, what is?
Dustbin fairing with Toy seat....................................
Of course, the real question should be about legal fairings.... |
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2008, 12:45:24 PM » |
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A "Dust Bin" fairing on a 2 wheeler will cause you to " Bite the Dust ".  |
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2008, 12:55:20 PM » |
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Dustbin fairings ARE LEGAL......................................
AMA/FIM=BUB
So there is NO question about "legal" fairings..........................................................
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2008, 12:59:37 PM » |
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But don't arrive at an SCTA or USFRA or ECTA event with a dustbin fairing -- at least, don't if you want to run. Dustbins are NOT legal with those sanctioning bodies. I don't know about the Texas Mile.
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2008, 01:10:22 PM » |
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WRONG......SCTA/BNI......allows dustbins on sidecars........................I understand the Aussies
now allow them on solo-bikes.....right Gary?.....
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2008, 01:33:45 PM » |
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"I would rather lose going fast enough to win than win going slow enough to lose."
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2008, 02:14:00 PM » |
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Ah, yes, I stand corrected. I always seem to forget about the tricycles -- I don't pay strict attention to the description of what they're allowed to run until it's time to inspect them. And please, DLRA folks -- don't scold me for neglecting to include you in my comments (whether I would have got your information right or wrong, I still didn't put you in there).
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2008, 02:47:09 PM » |
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If I recall, there nothing in the SCTA/BNI rule
book that states Dustbin fairing are allowed
on sidecars.......another one of those famous
"the eye of the beholder" equal....Tech. inspector
Hey, maybe you think the sidecar rules could stand some"updating"...........to do away with the
"eye of the beholder' theory.................................
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2008, 02:55:23 PM » |
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Whats a Charlie Toy Fairing? |
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Nancy -- 201.913 mph record on a production ZX15!
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2008, 02:58:59 PM » |
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7.I.12 allows for a fairing that restricts egress, such as might be found with a dustbin fairing, on sidecar streamliners. 7.I.3 requires that the rider must be able to exit without restriction (as might be experienced in a dustbin fairinged-bike), unless in compliance with enclosed streamliner rules.
So -- if you've got a dustbin fairing on a two-wheeled bike, don't appear at SCTA or the other bodies' events. Check to make sure you'll be able to run if you go to Bub's or DLRA.
I think that responds to the question in both ways. Ask again if we've missed something.
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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2008, 03:01:42 PM » |
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There's a guy named Charlie Toy that designed, in cooperation with a another racer or two, a fairing that's pretty aero efficient. Kent Riches (AirTech) has the molds and makes the fairings for us racers -- and the easy nomenclature for said fairing is a "Charlie Toy" fairing. Here's photo of my bike with the fairing -- a few others are running the same body, and more are running the tail section only with their own front pieces.
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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2008, 03:59:38 PM » |
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If you are new to this and confused . . . This is a dustbin fairing:  The problem with them is the sensitivity to side winds. If you look at the picture of the Charlie Toy fairing and just look at the cutout, it is the shape of a leg and foot. The entire body does a pretty good job of disappearing inside the body work. |
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Well, it used to be Los Angeles . . . 50 miles north of Fresno now.
Just remember . . . It isn't life or death.
It's bigger than life or death! It's RACING.
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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2008, 08:21:08 PM » |
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Interesting......I should point out that at this time my
SCTA/BNI rule book is back in California and
some of you who have the book right there in hand feel free to correct the following:
If I recall the rule book states that that a minimum of 180 degrees of wheel and tire must be showing and not blocked by streamlining........ both front and rear wheels. If this is correct......
it would be legal to use a Dustbin fairing on solo-bikes if the Dustbin fairing is mounted above the axcle of the front wheel.........
180degrees of wheel would not be covered by streamlning.........What say ye...........................
P.S> Thanks for the picture, Dean
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