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Offline panchop

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Re: My LS Bike Build Part 2
« Reply #90 on: May 19, 2008, 12:04:42 AM »
beautiful stuff. for what it's worth i used header wrap last year on my bike. when i got home and pulled it off the amount of rusting on the pipes was pretty amazing. i had always heard the heat increase in the metal could be a problem but i was really surprised to see that much crud. this year i just had them coated in and out.

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Re: My LS Bike Build Part 2
« Reply #91 on: May 19, 2008, 12:35:35 AM »
While at the track this weekend I had a friend who was updating some friends on another forum as to my progress, so instead of me writing something I have copied what he has written as he can write/tell a story much than I. Remember he is writting this to people who do not have knowledge of LSR so he explains a lot of stuff most of you know. he used to race bikes with Ed Mabry.


Here is what he wrote:



UPDATE NO. 1

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Scotty just called at 1:30PM, PST.

On the first run of the "new" Bonneville Buell, all was well, pulling clean & strong, handling perfectly.
At the normal shift point, 7300 RPM in 3th gear the bike would not shift to 4th.
He kept trying to make the shift but in so doing he lost several hundred RPM.
He finally got it into 4th but it bogged a bit from the dropped RPM.
Scott nursed it back up to the the shift point but it would not shift to 5th, even after several tries.
He "ran out of track" and was timed at 148 MPH in 4th !

The record for his class is a fast 178 MPH. His gearing calculator shows the bike *could* run 177 MPH at 7300 RPM in 5th (top) gear.
The rev-limiter hits at 7500 RPM, so...if he gets the shifting problem straightened out, he could top the 178 MPH record by several MPH.

Unlike Bonneville where you have to average two opposite direction speeds and exceed the old record to set a new one, at El Mirage you only have to exceed the old record in a single, one-way run. So, if the shifting can be corrected, a new record is definitely do-able and could happen..

*Could* being the operative word. No Land Speed Racer worth his salt says what he is going to do, only what he has done !
But it is very encouraging and Scott is really pretty happy. He is going to check all the obvious things like boot or shift lever interference and will try pre-loading the shifter as a way to possibly help. He may/may not attempt a shift mechanism repair at the track.

It is 105 F. at the track and he ran just after noon, meaning the air was very "thin". A bit cooler for a later run today will be a plus, and the jetting should still be good.

Tech inspection went great and the Bonneville Buell performed flawlessly, save the recalcitrant shifter. He found a little engine oil in the belly pan after the run and will be chasing that but it is not significant.
He is really impressed with the performance of the motor and how stable the bike is...both signs of a well built racer !

More later...wish him luck !

EDIT: I forgot to mention, last year's best speed of the (brand new) Bonneville Buell was 128 MPH in 5th gear. Great progress !



UPDATE NO. 2

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Scott called with today's last update.

Best case scenarios for the shifter & oil puking problems. Both turned out to be "new racer" teething problems that require a bit of fettling.
A heim joint on the shift linkage was rubbing inside the fairing preventing the 4-5 shift. It sounds like he'll do a "trackside fix" that will get the job done but require some TLC when he gets it home. "Inelegant but effective" for now.
The oil is normal for a "breathed on" HD motor turning 7300-7500 RPM for extended periods. A jerry-rigged catch bottle and a little hose will fix that.

The bad news is he won't get to make another pass today.
The good news he is near the start of the line for a pass tomorrow morning.

The other good news is why...
He gave up his slot for a run today to help another racer fix a problem and get in his "rookie run".
It was obvious that Scott has the smarts, skills & balls to build and race this bike in Land Speed Racing.
Now it is obvious that he also has the heart of a true racer.

Good luck tomorrow man...



UPDATE NO. 3

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Scott got in another pass this morning at 9:00AM PST.

No record (yet) but things are progressing.
He was still experiencing shifter problems although it was better. He "missed" the 2-3 shift which cost him time (track length) and speed (power); until he could shift on up, 2-3, 3-4 & 4-5.
His trap speed was 168 MPH in 5th (against the 178 record), with the engine still pulling & accelerating.
In other-words, he "ran out of track", well before he ran out of power, gearing, or "aero". Very encouraging.
Unlike Bonneville, El Mirage is much shorter and doesn't allow room for missed shifts, etc.
Temp was 85 F. and air density was 5,180 ft. Anyone know the 'mean sea level' at El Mirage ?
He said he *may* get in one more run and will update us if so.
If you see no more updates, that's "all she wrote" for this meet.
In my opinion he has had a very successful meet. Only a couple of minor problems with the "new" bike, and the potential more more speed was proven.

Way to go Scotty !


As you can see my friend is an excellent writer!


I could of made a few more passes today after my morning pass, however I just didn't feel right about getting back on the bike again until I had gone through it again to make sure everything was tight and in good working order, so next month we will be gunning for the 170 and 175 mark!

Here are few pics to start, I will post more in the next few days.

Scott


It was really hot!! WATER!!!



We are off!



Here is me and my pregnant Umbrella Girl/ Crew Chief!

Offline Peter Jack

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Re: My LS Bike Build Part 2
« Reply #92 on: May 19, 2008, 02:03:29 AM »
Good job Scott and good thinking in the end. There's lots of time for records and keeping ahead on the preparation will gain you a lot more success than rushing into things and maybe getting into trouble.

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Re: My LS Bike Build Part 2
« Reply #93 on: May 19, 2008, 08:06:29 PM »
Thanks Pete.....

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Re: My LS Bike Build Part 2
« Reply #94 on: June 17, 2008, 01:22:16 AM »
Ok guys a lot has happened since my last post. Some members of other forums found out that I wan't going to make it to Bonneville due to my wife's layoff and pregnancy so they decided to help. Members started sending money and I AM NOW GOING TO BONNEVILLE!!

Here are the threads from two different forums.


http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=222397

http://www.motorcyclistcafe.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5200

As far as work has gone on the bike I am getting very close to having everything replaced that needed replaced or re-done or installed the way I wanted.

Since being back from El Mirage and leaving early on a gut feeling that two runs were plenty until I had time to go through the bike. I found the intake manifold had loosened up, along with the top motor mount.

I took the rear rocker cover and tightened it down as I had a small leak. I replaced my old rectifier with a new one.The seat pan was not mounted to my liking so I changed it and am much happier. I adjusted my shift lever so I would have more leverage when shifting to eliminate any mis-shifts. I cleaned and re-lubed the drive chain.

I also went through the entire bike and checked for any cracks in the chassis or any additional loose bolts.


I wires in a new kill switch.



I installed this catch can that was donated by a forum (Rotten Ralph)member.






I made a new mount for my new steering damper and installed the new damper.



Well I got the cart in front of the horse and after the damper was installed I could not get my gas tank back in so I had to adapt and over come. I modified the mount so my gas tank would go back in and mounted the damper to the bottom of the triple tree instead of the top.



I have new tires that will be here in a few days at which point I will replace the wheel bearings and the rear sprocket down one tooth.

The next race is Sunday and I feel really good about the bike and it's potential!

All of these new parts and the trip to Bonneville this year is because of all of the help I received from good people. I am truly humbled and grateful for their kindness!

Scott

\-2{(Message edited by isiahstites on June 17, 2008)}

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Re: My LS Bike Build Part 2
« Reply #95 on: June 20, 2008, 12:43:00 AM »
Came home to some new tires yesterday! I always enjoy waiting on parts.......I am always anxious to see if something has shown up. Sometimes I feel like it is my Xmas all year round.

Tires are now mounted and balanced!



Before I did the tires I replaced the wheel bearings front and rear. I found the front left bearing was ready to fail. It is hard to see in the picture, but part of the bearing that rides between and separates the balls has broke and moved one of the balls slightly. I am glad I went with my instincts at the last race and passed on making any extra runs, this could of been ugly!!!

Old bearing is on the left and the new one is on the right. Look at the part where the two bearings are closest, that is the part that has started to fail.



New bearings being pressed in........



The bike will be ready to go tomorrow evening after I put the wheels back on and finish up a few minor things. Leaving Saturday morning for tech and racing on Sunday!!

My goal for this bike all along has been 175 and I hope to achieve that goal on Sunday.

Scott

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Re: My LS Bike Build Part 2
« Reply #96 on: June 20, 2008, 08:44:05 AM »
Good catch on the bearing, and good luck at EM, 175 is a good goal.  I think you have the correct approach, change a little, race, hopefully go faster, repeat as required...
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Re: My LS Bike Build Part 2
« Reply #97 on: June 20, 2008, 09:38:51 AM »
Scott, glad you found the bad bearing. Go fast and stay hydrated out there in the sand box.
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Re: My LS Bike Build Part 2
« Reply #98 on: June 23, 2008, 09:57:14 PM »
How did it go Scott ?

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Re: My LS Bike Build Part 2
« Reply #99 on: June 23, 2008, 10:52:12 PM »
I saw that scott went 167 on the scta update.  Way to go. :-D

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Re: My LS Bike Build Part 2
« Reply #100 on: June 24, 2008, 12:13:04 AM »
How did it go Scott ?

Sam.

Sam I am still learning and with the new bike I feel I am making leaps and bounds every pass.....we will get there in time with some patience and percerverience .


I made it back from El Mirage last night after some fun with the trailer. See pic below!

While there I made a pass of 167 and some change......it was only .200 off of last meets pass. The new tires, bearings and damper made the bike handle much better, she was as straight as an arrow!

The bike was geared about 4 mph faster this month due to an increase in tire size. Couple this with my 7200 rpm at the traps and I should of been in the mid 170's.........wheel spin killed us!! Also had some shifting problems again from 4th-5th......after three clutch pulls I finally got it..........this cost me a  lot of ground and I am sure xx mph at the traps.

My next project for the bike is more support in the front fairing, playback tach w. shift light and eventually an air shifter.

These things will help across the board.

So as we stand I am still short of the 170 mark. With a smooth complete pass with no errors I believe I can get into the range, I will them tune from there, but until then I am making sure everything is functional on the bike and not getting aggressive with the motor and the tune.





Cool picture


Here is the fun I had on the way home from El Mirage.





Hope you guys like this picture, I have an  8x10 coming. Check out all of his other photos......lots of LSR stuff.
http://76.169.115.204/racing/SCTA/080622%20El%20Mirage/pages/080622087.html

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Re: My LS Bike Build Part 2
« Reply #101 on: June 24, 2008, 12:18:38 AM »
Scott,

What does he charge for an 8x10?

Remember what I said about decals on my bikes

Glad your nephew had fun and I was proud to be his "Monkey"

what happened with the tire?

I am sure you will get that record and when you do the beer is on me..

John

PS, Tell "Mommy 2B" we said hello.

J

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Re: My LS Bike Build Part 2
« Reply #102 on: June 24, 2008, 12:27:31 AM »
Scott,

What does he charge for an 8x10?

Remember what I said about decals on my bikes

Glad your nephew had fun and I was proud to be his "Monkey"

what happened with the tire?

I am sure you will get that record and when you do the beer is on me..

John

PS, Tell "Mommy 2B" we said hello.

J

$20 for the 8x10 and I will tell her you guys said hello.

I took that tire to a "tire center" on Saturday morning because it had been losing pressure all week. The morons at the "tire center" couldn't find a leak anywhere even though it had gone flat on me. The guy tells me there nothing wrong with the tire as he air it to 40 psi and couldn't find any leaks anywhere and said it was perfectly safe to drive with. Half way home yesterday my instinct told me to pull over and check the bike in the trailer and make sure it wasn't laying on it's side........that's when I heard the air rushing out of the tire.

Do you know how hard it is to find a tire on Sunday afternoon at 5pm in Moreno Valley? Let alone a trailer tire.......that is a whole nether story I will tell you next time I see you.

Scott

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Re: My LS Bike Build Part 2
« Reply #103 on: June 24, 2008, 02:49:27 PM »
Scott, It's frustrating when you get so close, just 8mph, another day maybe, stick at it.

Sam. :wink:
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Re: My LS Bike Build Part 2
« Reply #104 on: June 24, 2008, 04:08:07 PM »
Scott
One spare for El Mirage, for Bonneville at least 2 spares for the trailer. Otherwise you did good. :-D
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