Helmet

[JackD]

Refinishing a helmet with any paint process can hide damage that will compromise the integrity of the shell rating.
Snell ratings are based on the 10 year service life of the construction materials used as of the test standard date, with revisions that follow every 5 years to keep up with technological advances.    

[guttley782]

I hope the officials see sense with the helmet rule. We have had trouble several times with our helmets, even though the UK testing and specifications are higher then Snell ratings. The Snell ratings are not high enough to be legal over here, yet the scrutineers at Speed Week struggle with this knowledge (not all of them!). I am glad to report that common sense has overcome each time, but it is still worrying to us over here that we can experience problems when any UK guy makes the long and expensive trip over. Please get someone in the know to clarify this point. Any thoughts Jack?

[JackD]

FIM really takes the lead in the study and recognition of MC helmet standards throughout the World.
 The National affiliates contribute too and follow their requirements.
All are published and can be obtained by any club with enough interest in helmet safety standards.
That should be the standard and any exception to the rules published by a club for an individual puts the whole event at risk by compromising their position with respect to at least liability.
Unfortunately many events suffer from the "Not invented here" syndrome that will turn to bite them and is unfair to the entrants.

Arncha glad Ya asked ?

[Clay Pitkin]

I found a really good deal on a snell certified SA2005 full face helmet. It has had aftermarket logos of various equipment painted on the helmet from the factory and not the seller, in this case the manufacture is Fulmer.
My question is will this helmet pass tech for Bonneville with all these itmes painted on the helmet? Again, its painted from the factory, not the retail seller.

TIA
Clay

[ol38y]

If you're running a car I'm gonna say yes. If you're running a bike, no.

Another post has reappeared on MC leathers. The basic consensus is don't go cheap on your safety gear. Whats your hide, or head, worth.

Just something to think about...

Larry

[JackD]

Snell certification requires the product be tested in the "AS SOLD"  condition, while the sales price is all over the map.
In the case of the helmet you have, the various companies that are represented by the logo on the product pay the helmet manufacturer for those rights.
The money comes under the advertising budget and can subsidize the sales price.
Many safety items are all provided by the same manufacturer and the various labeling is a product of various marketing.
Twice the cost is no guarantee of twice the safety.

[guttley782]

FIM dictates the specifications for the helmets used in Moto GP, and subsequently all the riders use helmets with the ACU Gold specification, as do all the racers in the UK. It would seem a logical step to acknowledge this and refer to both Snell and ACU in the rule book so that people from outside the USA can use their helmets. All the rest of the kit I am more than happy to conform to as we regard sfaety with the appropriate seriousness as well. We had our leathers altered  after the Jon M fire on his Triumph as required.

[1212FBGS]

the rule change forms are avalible to everyone.... give it a go....
kent

[JackD]

It is unfortunate, the required alterations did nothing to prevent the burns suffered, and as was explained by the victim, he now wears a commercially available Nomex (Carbon X) under all suit.
Other experts in the field of burn prevention agreed, but it was to no avail.
And so it goes.

[1212FBGS]

john wore the nomex even before the fire

[JackD]

john wore the nomex even before the fire

Are we speaking of Minono ?

[DahMurf]

john wore the nomex even before the fire

Are we speaking of Minono ?

I have questions/thoughts on this, but I'm going to post them over here in the leather thread as it seems more relevant then in the helmet thread!

Would love your thoughts over there!
Deb

[bak189]

ACU and helmets...........mid-1960's we go "over" to the U.K. to roadrace sidecars, we take with us our brand-new Bell-Star full coverage helmet....first race Brands Hatch (short course)....
ACU Officials..."you can't wear that helmet...not safe".....O.K.......you can wear it in practice.....but it is not safe for the race.....it does not allow for enough side-vision......if you crash..... how do we get it off your head.........AND this is the big one........YOUR HELMET IS NOT VERY SPORTY LOOKING, IS IT..........................but things got better, by our 3rd race we were allowed to wear our Bell .......how times have changed!! (for the better)

[bak189]

BUB...AMA/FIM...2007 Regulations (not 2008)

2.L (III) Helmet

" Helmets must be certified by the manufacturer
and have a sticker affixed stating it meets or exceeds DOT standard 2000.....SNELL M2000....M2005, or any of the FIM....SFI approved
certifications