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Offline Dakin Engineering

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Anti-corrosion finish for copper intercooler?
« on: January 01, 2008, 09:12:24 PM »
Does a wrinkle paint finish produce enough surface area to matter?



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Re: Anti-corrosion finish for copper intercooler?
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2008, 09:24:29 PM »
The  insulation provided by the paint exceeds the presumed benefit of the wrinkle finish.
Try GUN COAT.
It goes on thin, almost like ink , and has to be cured in an oven.
Plating is another option.












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Re: Anti-corrosion finish for copper intercooler?
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2008, 10:01:14 PM »
Thanks Jack,
 
 Loan me a nickel?  ;)

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Re: Anti-corrosion finish for copper intercooler?
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2008, 11:01:57 PM »
Looks nice, how about soldering some fins to those tubes?

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Re: Anti-corrosion finish for copper intercooler?
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2008, 11:16:31 PM »
It's for a water/air and my best guess is that direct ice/salt packing will give the best IAT differential for 3 minutes.

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Re: Anti-corrosion finish for copper intercooler?
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2008, 08:36:43 PM »
Jack,
  After due consideration, I'm gonna paint the copper with anti-seize and wipe it down.

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Re: Anti-corrosion finish for copper intercooler?
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2008, 09:31:18 PM »
Will you be monitoring the air in and out temps? I'd like to see how well you do with this if you don't mind.

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Re: Anti-corrosion finish for copper intercooler?
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2008, 11:04:16 PM »
Intake air temp and MAP, O2 front cylinder. K thermocouples on both pipes.
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Re: Anti-corrosion finish for copper intercooler?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2008, 12:30:55 AM »
Why are you going to paint it at all!?  If it is going to be in water the direct contact of the water to the copper is best. Any coating will reduce the rate of heat transfer.

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Re: Anti-corrosion finish for copper intercooler?
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2008, 10:22:09 AM »
During my testing with various liquids, brine being one of them, it developed quite a bit of surface corrosion. Polishing it out again got me thinking.

Silver plating would improve heat sinking, but still corrode. Not to mention the expense. (I've got a roll of silver solder and a propane bottle invested so far.)

I'm looking for the simplist, cheapest way to keep corrosion away.
Does gun blu work on copper?

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Re: Anti-corrosion finish for copper intercooler?
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2008, 12:39:00 PM »
Look into a product called Incralac, Its a sealer for bronze and copper and it doesn't brake down like normal sealers/paints. I'm not sure what reduction in thermal transfer it might cause, but I cant imagine it would be much. otherwise just let it patina.
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Re: Anti-corrosion finish for copper intercooler?
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2008, 06:43:31 PM »
IIRC Birchwood Casey used to make a copper & brass blackening product for gun hardware - try Brownell's etc.

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Re: Anti-corrosion finish for copper intercooler?
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2008, 08:23:08 PM »
Thar she blows! Brass Black.

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Re: Anti-corrosion finish for copper intercooler?
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2008, 08:46:03 PM »
Sam,
If you are going to use brine maybe you should put some sort of "scrafical" anode into the tank so that the electrolsis is between the scrafical anode not your copper cooler. I think that mag works for this but I am sure some one that actually knows will post.

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Re: Anti-corrosion finish for copper intercooler?
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2008, 11:39:18 PM »
Sam,

               call Finish Line Coatings they apply Thermal Dispersants. Might work.
               
                      http://www.finishlinecoatings.com/