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« on: December 19, 2007, 08:22:46 PM »

I'm a little slow on the up-take but I was just looking at the records for 07 and realized that our old sidecar record for SC/G was broken (clobbered!) this year at world of speed. Congratulations to John Stege. I am very proud to have been part of the team ,headed up by builder and mentor Bob Bakker, that set the old record in 1990. That particular bike is now in the Barber collection in Alabama. Seventeen years is a good run for a record, John I hope yours lasts as long.
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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2007, 11:22:39 PM »

John's scooter was purpose built and put up numbers above 200, not bad for a stock motor, says a lot for his streamlining of his sidecar outfit.  He needed a taller gear, he was on the rev limiter in 6th  shocked on his over 2 run, I was downtrack listening.....  grin  cool
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 Other kids A-G record 179.172  Josh O record 182.266
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2007, 01:10:12 AM »

was it a Bub record breaker?
any one got a pix of it?
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2007, 09:15:14 AM »

Kent, he was at WOS, nice guy, Slim, did you get a picture?
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 MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's 233 MPH H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
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 Other kids A-G record 179.172  Josh O record 182.266
 Co-owner of the Amo Steele Streamliner, #1411... it's done, new parts car probably
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2007, 09:28:53 AM »

No, I didn't.  I teched the bike, though.  'Busa motor in a purpose-built rig -- a kneeler, it was, with auto-style tires front and rear (and I don't remember what he had for #3 tire).

I remember him coming to inspection and explaining it would be his first run on the new bike.  Then he qualifies and comes to impound with a "How the heck did that happen?" look on his face.  Next morning he backs it up (I think the return was even faster) and then he's in impound and has Stainless "recommended" to help him with the teardown (you're welcome, Robert).

He spent hours and hours in impound -- I remember because his trailer was right in front of where I was stationed, and he blocked my view of the track all dang day.

But still, No, I don't have a photo.
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2007, 12:42:50 PM »

GREAT John, for getting our old record....after all that is what LSR is all about...........I just love the way "you all" now define some of the sidecar as
"purpose build rigs" is that make the bold- on- units "wheels on a stick".
Certainly would like to see a picture of John's
"purpose build rig"....................................................
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2007, 01:11:07 PM »

I done picture from John, very nice guy and his wife is great, too.....She said, when I meet John 35 years ago he runs side car races, he crashed the bike during the race and I married him.......no comment to this.
By the way, this thing was going like hell and I gave the bike the name....No Brain No Pain........kneeing at 200 mph......
Picture, did someone need them by purpose or just here on the website....I can reduce the datasize and can download the picture here if you like them. Please let me know.
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2007, 01:33:28 PM »

Bak, when I said "purpose-built" I was referring to the fact that this is not a motorcycle adapted to sidecar duty, nor a racing sidecar rig adapted to lakes racing -- but rather a rig designed and built for one and only one venue.

Perhaps all sidecar land speed entries are similarly "purpose-built" -- in which case I guess my addition of the moniker is superfluous.  But this one sure as heck wasn't a "wheel on a stick" design.

I hope Pork finds and posts a photo.
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2007, 02:55:07 PM »

here the picture


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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2007, 02:57:15 PM »

another one


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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2007, 02:58:24 PM »

one more


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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2007, 03:01:05 PM »

Good looking outfit, I must admit that this is where the rules begin to blur between streamliner and sidecar. I noticed that this bike was originally listed in results as a SC/S and somewhere along the line got changed. In my opinion there should still be an Altered class for purpose built machines like this, I think that this would "clear up" the blur.  I would think that was the original intention of the rules years ago before the Altered class was eliminated. Having said that, a great accomplishment by John Stege.
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2007, 03:36:43 PM »

Many thanks for the pictures, PorkPie...... it looks like a outstanding LSR sidecar with great Aero.
I am looking foward in seeing the outfit in person in the future.
One very interesting point that a noted from the pictures is that the rules must have changed.....
John ran World Finals...right? that is under SCTA/BNI rules.....right?  When I asked BNI Tech. if I could build a LSR sidecar with the driver kneeling INSIDE the outfit.....I was told....NO WAY.
The rule regarding being able to see the rider from the side (except for forearms) was also being enforced on sidecars........if the driver kneeled inside the outfit it became a streamliner
that would require a roll-cage and belts.......so tell me Slim....seeing as you Teched the outfit.....
have the rules been changed???
I should note that the BUB sidecar rules for 2007
DO allow the driver inside the outfit.
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2007, 04:07:52 PM »

Just to clarify - the first pictures shows John just after the start about ten yards away from the starting line - I done a picture from John when he done his 203 mph return run in the third mile.....still in this position......there is a reason why I called this sidecar No Brain No Pain.......

In other words - he didn't change his position and goes "inside" the bike - his body is full in the air....like a sit on bike.
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2007, 04:58:59 PM »

..............................John ran World Finals...right? that is under SCTA/BNI rules.....right?......................................

Kent, he was at WOS, nice guy, Slim, did you get a picture?

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