EL Mirage, Bonneville, Maxton -- SPEEDS?

[WildBro]

This question applies to sit on motorcycles.
I have found that bike speeds at Maxton and Bonneville are about the same.  within a mph or 2.  Some people run 1-2 mph faster at Bonneville others run 1-2 faster at Maxton.  I myself ran about exactly the same at both. 
My question is, how do the speeds compare from EL Mirage to Bonneville/Maxton

Bill

P.S.  I tought it would be cheaper to ask, instead of driving to CA

[DahMurf]

As an innocent bystander that's just watched numbers fly around (I've never been there) it seems to me that the El Mirage speeds are a little lower.
It seems to me the combination of less traction on dirt and the shorter track nets slightly lower speeds. I'm guessing that the distance available
on the salt helps compinsate for the traction challenges. The fact that you can hook up at Maxton but have a limited distance I believe helps keep it
closer in line with the salt.

But that's just my opinion!

July El Mirage: John Noonan was fast bike of the meet on a turbo Hayabusa running 235.924 - Isn't this the same bike that was running 240's on the salt?

John N & Jason M would be good people to answer this one as they've both been running at both El Mirage & the salt this year. Both have also run at Maxton.
Deb

[Dean Los Angeles]

The altitude is 200 ft at Maxton with a mile asphalt surface.

The altitude is 4200 ft at Bonneville with a really long salt surface.

The altitude is 2800 ft at El Mirage with a 1.3 mile dirt surface. Dirt doesn't quite describe the super fine alkali dust that sits on top of a very hard lake bed. The dust is so fine it will go through, into, on top of, and inside just about anything.

Just like the salt, the surface conditions vary depending on the weather and changes during the day depending on how good it was to start, and how much it gets torn up during the day.

[JackD]

Drag Racers are the funny because when you ask them they all say with that much room 250 should be easy.
A good baseline to learn from is the performance of a pure stocker like you will find in a magazine test.
It does not use the 'tune up" to measure results against others but is a standard for comparison.
In test after test of high performance bikes, the duration at top speed was beyond the design of the machine and the heat build up among other things actually caused them to slow down in less than a mile.
Things that worked at a 1320 ft drag strip, failed at 1500 ft on the dirt.
1 mile on pavement, or 1.3 in the dirt is close and 3 + at Bonneville is something else again.
The only straight across comparison is the riders ability, that so many can't believe to be such a large measure.
All the rest is mostly "ROOSTERING".

[Dan Stokes]

Actually, Dean, Maxton is mostly concrete, as it was a WWII glider training base.  I say "mostly" because as we patch, we're getting repairs in asphalt - much more cost effective.  The goal is to have no more loose stuff by the October meet, if I can get the paving guy to call me back (this has been delegated to me)!  I think you have the elevation about right - I'm at 18 feet in Wilmington, and it's mostly uphill from here to the track.

When you coming out to see us?  We'd love to have you, especially with a race vehicle.

Later
Dan

The altitude is 200 ft at Maxton with a mile asphalt surface.

The altitude is 4200 ft at Bonneville with a really long salt surface.

The altitude is 2800 ft at El Mirage with a 1.3 mile dirt surface. Dirt doesn't quite describe the super fine alkali dust that sits on top of a very hard lake bed. The dust is so fine it will go through, into, on top of, and inside just about anything.

Just like the salt, the surface conditions vary depending on the weather and changes during the day depending on how good it was to start, and how much it gets torn up during the day.