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Re: Wet versus Dry Nitrous Systems
« Reply #75 on: August 01, 2007, 12:58:40 AM »
Joe, so far I've learned-

1) Nitrous kits are built for drag racers and not Land Speed Racers,
2) Opinions on the use of nitrous are just like assholes... everyone has one.
3) I should expect to blow 6 engines before I learn the proper use of nitrous.
4) It's a very expensive option for my bike.
5) Everyone lists you as the top nitrous man.

The good news?

Not quite sure...  I'm hitting more golf balls at the range to take out my frustrations and my swing is improving?
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Re: Wet versus Dry Nitrous Systems
« Reply #76 on: August 01, 2007, 07:43:25 AM »
6 motors may be a low estimate, but it appears you listen... so you may get under that wire.  Offer is still open to chat.  If you bring beer, you may get Joe and I together to talk.  :wink:
See ya on the salt  8-)
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Re: Wet versus Dry Nitrous Systems
« Reply #77 on: August 01, 2007, 08:07:03 AM »
flyboy.......the flip side.......your amazing zx14 will
REALLY come alive with a "little" nitrous......and can  be
the easiest way to higher speeds.....we were using pretty
ineffecient motors and had to stuff a relatively large load
of nitrous in the thing.....thats where the issues really start
to pile up........

i think its like your young teenager who comes to you and says
that they would like to drink alcohol at those special social events
to be more social and have more fun..........it can be done.....but we
all know the lives that "can" be lost or ruined by its consumption...
« Last Edit: August 01, 2007, 08:11:39 AM by joea »

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Re: Wet versus Dry Nitrous Systems
« Reply #78 on: August 01, 2007, 10:47:45 AM »
Thanks Scott- I now see a light at the end of the tunnel. Hari-Kari may not be necessary.

Exhaust question-

Last year I noted many vet bikers did not use an exhaust (muffler). After talking to one of the engineers that works at BUB he mentioned that no exhaust was good for top end but not good for drag racing. On the other hand some people say that a little back pressure is good for the motor when doing LSR. What do you guys think is best for top performance during LSR? One comment- No one in my area will dyno my engine with no muffler...

Refill Question- Are there vendors at  Speedweek or BUB that sell nitrous fillups?
« Last Edit: August 01, 2007, 01:28:19 PM by Flyboy »
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Re: Wet versus Dry Nitrous Systems
« Reply #79 on: August 01, 2007, 02:13:37 PM »
Thanks Scott- I now see a light at the end of the tunnel. Hari-Kari may not be necessary.

Exhaust question-

................... On the other hand some people say that a little back pressure is good for the motor when doing LSR. What do you guys think is best for top performance during LSR? .........................

As far as I'm concerned the only back pressure one would ever want would be a tuned wave going back up your exhaust at the correct time for the rpm where you need it.

Back pressure by itself is just going to slow down the movement of air through the head, cylinder, exhaust and is just the opposite of what you are trying to achieve.

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Re: Wet versus Dry Nitrous Systems
« Reply #80 on: August 07, 2007, 10:57:39 PM »
Flyboy,

Mr. Guthrie speaks with authority when it comes to nitrous on a stock motor (no rods) in 1 mile. 
JoeA can tell you what the salt likes and doesn't like.  A ZX14 with a small amount of juice on the rich side can make you go a lot faster, but the tragedies of nitrous are still there.
Wayne Pollack told me once, the secret to going fast on a long distance, is to go fast fat and lethargic.  I have built my speeds up using that same advice.  This year I plan to use even more nitrous, but in 2 stages and yes, I also expect to see my motor in a basket after the next meet.  But I will return and I will go faster than the time before.  I keep learning what not to do, sooner or later I should run out of things not to do.  Then and only then will I hit my goal.

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Re: Wet versus Dry Nitrous Systems
« Reply #81 on: August 08, 2007, 11:37:45 AM »
"HP is like money,  you can spend all you have when you get it, or you can invest it." (us) :wink:
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Re: Wet versus Dry Nitrous Systems
« Reply #82 on: September 28, 2007, 11:13:12 AM »
Dragging this one back up so Oz can read it if he has not
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Re: Wet versus Dry Nitrous Systems
« Reply #83 on: October 01, 2007, 03:37:43 AM »
Yup I have now
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