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Offline jl222

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #795 on: August 23, 2009, 10:25:15 PM »
   Thanks, but 295 mph  right at the 1st of the 3 mile  and you think we should put more weight on the front end? I like the way you and  [some] of the other center of pressure people and competitors think. There were lots of other spins out there with less than our weight distribution.

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  PS. when I spun the 222 car was going 170 mph in 13 sec the fastest in that part of the course yet for us and were
thinking of ways to add more wheel loading without adding weight.
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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #796 on: August 24, 2009, 12:44:51 AM »
   Thanks, but 295 mph  right at the 1st of the 3 mile  and you think we should put more weight on the front end? I like the way you and  [some] of the other center of pressure people and competitors think. There were lots of other spins out there with less than our weight distribution.

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #797 on: August 24, 2009, 07:18:20 AM »
JL222 & bvillercr , You guys are true hero's (in my opinion anyway),For what you have accomplished , and yet to accomplish,you have set the standard for Doorslammers on the salt!!I'd rank you up there with my lifetime hero-Craig Breedlove,For the dedication,drive,determination,& desire to do what you have done (so far...More is in that Camaro !!).I hope you can get the bugs sorted out,would love to see ya get that 300!
 Cheers , Bob. (Probably your biggest fan?)....(how about bringing that Camaro down here to Lake Gairdner??)
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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #798 on: August 24, 2009, 11:44:05 AM »

   Thanks Bob.... Now my hat won't fit. I was just going to look at the different videos and run data to see how soon we
 could accelerate to 300 and will post my findings. All runs so far [in 1st @ 2nd we never gave over 50% throttle with revs still increasing at good rate.  That 285 1st timed mile was the easiest I've ever been on the throttle so were excited about
how fast and quick it will go.

    JL222 :cheers:
 

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #799 on: August 25, 2009, 04:50:06 PM »
 
  After looking and comparing videos and run data we reached 170 mph [on spin run] 11 sec faster than 285 1st timed mile run later that day [310 indicated speed before blow off] subtracting 11 sec from  video the 2 mile marker [start of 1st timed mile] goes by  :-P

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #800 on: August 30, 2009, 10:09:28 PM »

  Our Bonneville Pro computer program is amazing looking at our F.A.S.T. EFI data I can see when each shift occurred [rpm and sec from ist throttle apply] interring this info into Bville pro for our last run and were I was able to apply full throttle,
the program was right on and so were our data inputs, shift from 3rd  6000 rpm speed 216 now in 4th [high gear] time to 311 mph 6850 rpm [actual 20.8 sec] computer printout 20.2 sec.

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  These times don't happen as fast as the program predicts because we can't full throttle it at start


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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #801 on: August 30, 2009, 10:14:28 PM »
One word:

LORING

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #802 on: August 30, 2009, 11:28:13 PM »
One word:

LORING

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Could almost consider the Texas Mile, but Loring?  Dats just a little too far. :-o

Offline Stan Back

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #803 on: August 31, 2009, 02:05:35 PM »
But it's 50% longer!
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Offline Freud

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #804 on: August 31, 2009, 02:08:09 PM »
Do you mean the tow is 50% longer?

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Offline Stan Back

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #805 on: August 31, 2009, 02:09:39 PM »
No -- it's always 50% longer.

The tow depends on where you start.

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Offline Freud

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #806 on: August 31, 2009, 02:44:41 PM »
And also where you end.

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Offline John Noonan

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #807 on: September 01, 2009, 02:29:18 AM »
DR, thanks for the call today, always a true pleasure.  :cheers:

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #808 on: October 17, 2009, 02:31:34 PM »
Some things that we need to do in this off season which has already started for us, meaning we won't run until May El Mirage meet.  We need to tear down the motor and check pistons, cylinder walls and crank.  We need to rebuild our headers and make them out of stainless, we are thinking about a higher gear ratio so our torque isn't as great on the tires when we shift plus we are hitting the mile at bville close to 300 so the extra gear should help for the next two miles.  We also need to upgrade our connections at the blower pipes.  Those really good connectors are not cheap, anyone out there want to sponsor those? :-D  Future or near future upgrades would be H2O injection into the impellar and some possible suspension adjustments.  Tear down of the engine soon. :-D

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #809 on: October 17, 2009, 03:32:12 PM »
Some things that we need to do in this off season which has already started for us, meaning we won't run until May El Mirage meet.  We need to tear down the motor and check pistons, cylinder walls and crank.  We need to rebuild our headers and make them out of stainless, we are thinking about a higher gear ratio so our torque isn't as great on the tires when we shift plus we are hitting the mile at bville close to 300 so the extra gear should help for the next two miles.  We also need to upgrade our connections at the blower pipes.  Those really good connectors are not cheap, anyone out there want to sponsor those? :-D  Future or near future upgrades would be H2O injection into the impeller and some possible suspension adjustments.  Tear down of the engine soon. :-D

  Bvillercr...you forgot to mention our main problem replacing all the valves with inconel on  the ehaust [which we haven't been able to get when we need them] and titanium on the intakes and we might inject water after the intercooler also but the water would't be evaporating untll the compression stroke with the cool temps coming out of intercooler.

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