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Author Topic: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)  (Read 855788 times)

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Offline Captthundarr

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #1905 on: December 09, 2012, 09:23:32 AM »
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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #1906 on: December 09, 2012, 02:33:24 PM »
You guys keep talking about front to rear weight distribution when the real issue is where the weight is in relation to the center of pressure. The further forward the center of gravity from the center of pressure, the more stable the car will be. If you have this correct and you spin the tires, it will not swap ends unless you make a quick move with the steering wheel which, because the goal is to go straight, should not be an issue.
The faster you go, the less relevant the mechanical traction of tire grip is and the more important aero stability is.
Btw, I like those big rear tires. I know of someone who tried a set a drag radials on the salt and he said they were awesome. Too bad they are not ready for primetime yet, relative to sustained periods of speed.
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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #1907 on: December 09, 2012, 03:21:08 PM »
You guys keep talking about front to rear weight distribution when the real issue is where the weight is in relation to the center of pressure. The further forward the center of gravity from the center of pressure, the more stable the car will be. If you have this correct and you spin the tires, it will not swap ends unless you make a quick move with the steering wheel which, because the goal is to go straight, should not be an issue.
The faster you go, the less relevant the mechanical traction of tire grip is and the more important aero stability is.
Btw, I like those big rear tires. I know of someone who tried a set a drag radials on the salt and he said they were awesome. Too bad they are not ready for primetime yet, relative to sustained periods of speed.

  The trouble is havimg enough weight on the rear tires to keep from spinning them. 222 has always felt glued in on a good course [in high gear] Last aug it felt terrible, which I believe was because of the high and low spots running with the course [imagine the same on a drag strip and a top fueler trying to hook up].

  We have been thinking about bigger spill plates and maybe one or two in the middle. + the gurrney flap for more downforce, hopefully that would help the center of pressure.

             JL222


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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #1908 on: December 09, 2012, 03:47:48 PM »
Yes, I would make the spill plates as big as rules will allow. This will allow bigger rear percentages while still maintaining aero stability.
This is also the plan for the 3838 Vette this year.
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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #1909 on: December 09, 2012, 08:06:22 PM »
John, was this you the other day hunting  :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK7Tc7X5Ueo

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #1910 on: December 09, 2012, 10:35:22 PM »
John, was this you the other day hunting  :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK7Tc7X5Ueo

  

  No, squirrels 4, bullets 10 :-D

  But I like that scope.

 Thats a herd of squirrels :-o

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #1911 on: December 10, 2012, 10:50:31 PM »
That's a lot of squirrels. That looks like fun!
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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #1912 on: December 12, 2012, 01:25:45 PM »
 
  Good news, should be able to pick our block up from J@S East Valley Garage when I travel down to Santa Barbara for an annual New Years Party. 500 mile round trip :cheers:

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #1913 on: December 13, 2012, 11:20:31 PM »
Every few pages I like to put up videos of our runs so if people want to find them they can locate them a little easier.  These are some of our better videos.

     These are in 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHUEA-pScY8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Udo7XM472Qk

                 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55XA0vrNNj0

                 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxkEtJ1b6AI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLG0JFzazrs

 More from the past

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  Rob...here's the videos. The 1st one is El Mirage, car hooks up and goes 152 mph in 10.2 sec. Then track turns bad which you can see from other video.

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #1914 on: December 14, 2012, 12:11:45 PM »
Every few pages I like to put up videos of our runs so if people want to find them they can locate them a little easier.  These are some of our better videos.

     These are in 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHUEA-pScY8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Udo7XM472Qk

                 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55XA0vrNNj0

                 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxkEtJ1b6AI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLG0JFzazrs

 More from the past

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  Rob...here's the videos. The 1st one is El Mirage, car hooks up and goes 152 mph in 10.2 sec. Then track turns bad which you can see from other video.
  Those times might go with the 09 video. I just remembering checking the FAST data log and coming up with those times for one of the runs.

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #1915 on: January 03, 2013, 07:48:50 PM »
 
  Good news, should be able to pick our block up from J@S East Valley Garage when I travel down to Santa Barbara for an annual New Years Party. 500 mile round trip :cheers:

            JL222

  Bad news, blocks not ready, but the really bad news is we found a hairline crack in the head that goes up the
sparkplug threads and into the tube area, and sparkplug is very loose in threads, to many things wrong to take a chanch on fixing. New head time.
  These heads are real rough when I get them, no way to possibly run without porting and o-rings on cylinder head needs to be machined and installed.

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #1916 on: March 09, 2013, 02:40:11 PM »

Its a 500 mile round trip to Santa Barbara for us and we have the same Tax accountant as when we lived there, so killing to squirrles with one shot, I picked up the block from J@S  East Valley Garage yesterday and it looks great :cheers: Hunter even rubbed a little clutch dust on new welds to blend in :-D

 Got to start ordering parts.

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #1917 on: April 09, 2013, 01:28:29 AM »
 
 :cheers: after 7+ months we finally  got our grading permit from Fresno County last Thursday.
 
 Our grading contractor delivered his equipment Sat and started grading today :-D

 But some giant granite boulders got uncovered and need to be blasted apart :cry: [cost about 10 rods and pistons] :-P Still ordering them though :-D

  Here's something weird. We have one last test for the building permit, [ testing our well for water flow], which I had done before buying property, but now they say well test are only good for 1 yr. Any how, the grading contractor gave me the name of a tester that was on his last job. MIKE WATERS and he's a fireman, what a coincidence.
 For those that don't know. Our Mike Waters and retired fireman, icon of SCTA and BNI, burial was today :cry: R.I.P. Mike.

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #1918 on: May 20, 2013, 05:44:17 PM »
 
  We won't make Bville this year, main reason is that we'll be right in the middle of construction on our new house and I don't want to leave an un-occupied property with a bunch of strangers coming and going.
 And a couple of our crew members will be recovering from operations.

 BUT still planing for next year.

 DICK'S SPORTING GOODS have a sale untill 5/25 on 12 x 12 shades for $139 and I bought two, + we had a
coupon for $20 off over $100 and the sales girl rang them up separatly for $119 + TAX = $129 each :-D

  They are 6' 51/2'' to the crossbars with straight legs which should allow us to lower and take off canopy in a hurry.

 Troy and I set one up in the shop today and with no stakes or tiedowns, folded it up in 1 min and 5 sec  :-D

  We also have started to use ratcheting tie down straps for the teathers. This will make setup, tear down and
canopy removal at night much easier than our old pipe style.

 Troy took a picture and will post when he can

 JL222 :cheers:

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Re: Getting ready for Bonneville(rebuild)
« Reply #1919 on: May 21, 2013, 09:07:16 AM »
Here is the easy up that JL222 is referring to.



Even thou we are not racing in 2013, we will be slowing changing and rebuilding our car/engine.  This is a version of one change that needs to be addressed.