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Offline hawkwind

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streamliner designs
« on: March 19, 2007, 02:16:46 AM »
Im after pics and recources /plans etc  of the small engine sized (G H I ) streamliners , what was successful ,what was not ,starting planning stage for a streamliner and as I only have the resources for one shot only Im keen to do it correctly
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Gary
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Re: streamliner designs
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2007, 03:22:34 AM »
Y es I have looked at the links section and pics on this site , but I don't know there history or success as a certain red machine has trumped the lot
Gary
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Re: streamliner designs
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2007, 04:05:40 AM »
Are you speaking of a car or a bike ?
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Re: streamliner designs
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2007, 04:47:21 AM »
Jack  I assumed  G, H & I gave the game away , one of those 4 wheel thingies , why a car ,simple , by the time its complete I will be to old for motorcycles LOL
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Re: streamliner designs
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2007, 06:37:00 AM »
The car streamliner is undergoing quite a revolution again.
The famous John Vesco car was the first of the narrow liners and was so revolutionary that is was only allowed to run for time only until the Wizards saw the writing on the wall.
The Don DiBring  car suddenly went so fast that is was the subject of a lot of unsuccessful noise to make him do an unheard of backup run at El Mirage.
When he repeated the outstanding performance at Bonneville it left the former critics only talking to them selves.
The Costella liners have taken the next performance step.
My idea is to get a really small curl that is even more aero than a shaved head guy and get the "Good Old Boys" talking to themselves again.
The more money, plans, and science you apply the more the Hot Rodder wants to knock you off and they do. 
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Re: streamliner designs
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2007, 10:32:01 AM »
hey, lave us shaved head guys out of this.
I know nothing about aerodynamics.
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2007, 11:13:27 AM »
EYES ONLY !
SPEED SECRET TO FOLLOW :
Brian is a nice guy and all but it is more likely I would put him in a door slammer. :wink:
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Re: streamliner designs
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2007, 11:28:14 AM »
Long and skinney seems to be the pattern.
Jack and Rick have certainly made a favorable impression.
Make certain that the nose isn't a wing.
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2007, 01:59:45 PM »
Also try not to make the side profile a wing, you don't want to fly if you get sideways.
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Re: streamliner designs
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2007, 05:02:15 PM »
Im after pics and recources /plans etc  of the small engine sized (G H I ) streamliners , what was successful ,what was not ,starting planning stage for a streamliner and as I only have the resources for one shot only Im keen to do it correctly
Cheers
Gary
The Costella Streamliner #988 and the McBride & Moreau Streamliner #286 start both very successful in 1996 with a very similar, very small streamliner. From 1996 to 2001 the record was pushed from both teams from 178 mph to
248 mph (I/GS and I/FS) under SCTA/BNI - Jim True run FIA with the Costella to 253 mph, which is only 5 mph under the current Blown FIA record.
Meanwhile, Rick Yacoucci is using the Costella streamliner very successful with bigger engines up to 360 mph with 92 ci blown engine and 316 mph in I/BFS.

Both cars shows possible solutions for a very fast concept. The different between the Costella and the McBride & Moreau concept is, that the Costella concept works only without suspension and a flat, very close to the ground positioned, floor.
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Re: streamliner designs
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2007, 11:17:47 PM »
One thing everyone forgot to say.....and we learned it in the late 70s and early 80s and even have a commemorative rule....
FRONT WHEEL STEERING!
and above all, build it like your life depends on it if you crash....
Stainless
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Re: streamliner designs
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2007, 11:37:51 PM »
Stainless, why would you try to confuse the issue with something as backward as front wheel steering.
It's a lot easier to parallel park if it has rear wheel guidance.
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Re: streamliner designs
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2007, 11:45:37 PM »
Stainless, Also remember the fastest car in the world is rear steering. :roll:
John Gowetski, red hat @ 221.183 MPH MSA Lakester, Bockscar #1000 60 ci normally aspirated w/N20

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Re: streamliner designs
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2007, 12:16:07 AM »
Hawkwind

Think long and hard about how you're going to do the body . That part of the build takes an unbelievable amount of time .

John Burk

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Re: streamliner designs
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2007, 12:25:28 AM »
Stainless, Also remember the fastest car in the world is rear steering. :roll:
The car you mention didn't do much steering with the rear wheels but they acted as a rudder as it flew along the ground.
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