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Offline JackD

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Re: Sidecar Streamliner Steering and Controls
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2007, 10:20:08 AM »
Lucky me. I learned about tank slappers from some riding experts and never had one myself.
The red face part is right because I worried about those that smashed their white knuckles into the tank or fairing.
One guy was spit off at 2 events in a row and didn't understand why.
The second time he was hurt seriously enough that he retired, but in that case the bike continued without him as soon as it shed the top nut.
All of those are rules of Mother Nature that have been broken before but some still insist on learning the hard way.

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Re: Sidecar Streamliner Steering and Controls
« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2007, 12:50:10 PM »
My cycle streamliner was originally designed with a two cable sytem of steering based around an early Vesco build. I never really felt confident with the cables and then the rules were changed to prohibit the cables due to no way to check for corrosion and other safetu concerns. That suited me fine and I developed an arm and link sytem that will allow easy access in and out of steering from laying down.
   Still haven't tried it yet in the real world but my time is coming.
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Offline Loose Goose-Terry#1

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Re: Sidecar Streamliner Steering and Controls
« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2007, 01:24:44 PM »
 :-D The front end geometry where the tie rod connects to the pitman arm and spendle will have to be centered at the pivot of the front "swing arm" to prevent "bump steer", right? :? I still want to keep this simple :| so:
1) Don't use cables to steer
2) Don't use variable steering
3) Don't use a steering wheel or buterfly wheel
4) Use solid steering linkage
5) use handlebars so it will remain a motorcycle
6) Use variable steering dampening
7) Eliminate bump steer through frontend/steering geometry design

Do I have it right so far? :?
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Re: Sidecar Streamliner Steering and Controls
« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2007, 02:07:37 PM »
yep......

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Re: Sidecar Streamliner Steering and Controls
« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2007, 12:59:27 AM »
It appears to me that "imagination" is soon replaced by "imitation" in motorcycle streamliner steering.

There is no good reason to try to improve on systems that have proven to be satisfactory at over 300 MPH.

Many streamliners have had more power than their handling could control.

If Kent's system works it's because he learned early on, it's better to copy than to crash, and he appears to be a slow learner.

No Kent, I don't want to get a Red hat in one of your rockets and I never did expect to have that offer either.

FREUD
Since '63