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Offline RICK

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Re: Vintage Engines & new rules clarification??
« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2010, 09:23:27 PM »
I'm not sure at what point I would consider  an HEI distributor to be a computer.  Is  HEI allowed in vintage?
The 'module' under the cap has some kind of 'micro-processor', although I wouldn't exactly call it a computer.


38flattie,  Who was the official that said NO???

4-barrel, That is definitely an DIS, not a stand alone, has an external input to a complex controller etc., and its allowed???
  I feel that your answers are conflicting.     What is the real truth?

   Now I need help,  RICK
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Offline 4-barrel Mike

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Re: Vintage Engines & new rules clarification??
« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2010, 10:32:05 PM »
I don't know.  I raised the original question and it still hasn't been answered, at least publicly.

38flattie: could you cut and paste your question and the answer into this thread?

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Re: Vintage Engines & new rules clarification??
« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2010, 10:54:42 PM »
I too would like to know who the official is that answered the question. It didn't come to me until after the no was given.

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Re: Vintage Engines & new rules clarification??
« Reply #33 on: July 13, 2010, 11:28:08 PM »
Gents, it seems I may have mispoke. Seems that one of the gents that I thought be should be asking, and that gave me that answer, is not the proper source.

DW tells me it CAN be used

Sorry about that!
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Re: Vintage Engines & new rules clarification??
« Reply #34 on: July 13, 2010, 11:57:01 PM »
38 Flattie,

Was the person you asked an SCTA official or not? That way you don't have to reveal their identity.

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Re: Vintage Engines & new rules clarification??
« Reply #35 on: July 14, 2010, 12:02:41 AM »
Quote from: 38flattie on July 13, 2010, 11:28:08 PM
Gents, it seems I may have mispoke. Seems that one of the gents that I thought be should be asking, and that gave me that answer, is not the proper source.

DW tells me it CAN be used

Sorry about that!

So!  The answer is, yes, programmable ignitions (with boost retard) such as the MSD 7535 http://www.msdignition.com/product.aspx?id=5853&terms=7535 are legal.  Is that correct?

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Re: Vintage Engines & new rules clarification??
« Reply #36 on: July 14, 2010, 12:04:37 AM »
I sent the question off to three people that I thought were officials, based on names given to me by a member and friend. DW was one of them. After I read Dw's response, and looked up the officials, I realized that he was not.

My mistake, and I apologize for confusion.
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Re: Vintage Engines & new rules clarification??
« Reply #37 on: July 14, 2010, 12:07:36 AM »
4-barrel Mike, looks like you posted while I was.

DW IS an official, correct? He tells me yes.
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Re: Vintage Engines & new rules clarification??
« Reply #38 on: July 14, 2010, 12:19:22 AM »
Yes, Dan Warner is an official.   :-D

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Re: Vintage Engines & new rules clarification??
« Reply #39 on: July 14, 2010, 12:30:53 AM »
Well, I can't be to sure now, can I? :wink:

He did say this: Be sure that you have the presets locked as JD Tone mentioned in his reply.
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Re: Vintage Engines & new rules clarification??
« Reply #40 on: July 14, 2010, 02:30:21 AM »
I have been running a stand alone HEI in my GMC for at least 15 years. It has a power wire, tach wire, and a built in coil . There are centrifugal weights and an after market module and has never been questioned in impounds. I hope this helps.........JD
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Re: Vintage Engines & new rules clarification??
« Reply #41 on: July 14, 2010, 09:13:48 AM »
I don't know whether to laugh or puke.
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Re: Vintage Engines & new rules clarification??
« Reply #42 on: July 14, 2010, 10:57:22 AM »
Quote from: 4-barrel Mike on July 14, 2010, 12:02:41 AM
Quote from: 38flattie on July 13, 2010, 11:28:08 PM
Gents, it seems I may have mispoke. Seems that one of the gents that I thought be should be asking, and that gave me that answer, is not the proper source.

DW tells me it CAN be used

Sorry about that!

So!  The answer is, yes, programmable ignitions (with boost retard) such as the MSD 7535 http://www.msdignition.com/product.aspx?id=5853&terms=7535 are legal.  Is that correct?

Mike

That sure looks like a computer controlled ignition system to me considering you use PC software to program it. 
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Re: Vintage Engines & new rules clarification??
« Reply #43 on: July 14, 2010, 11:34:35 AM »
Sigh.  It also fits "4....any ignition."  See the original question. 

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Re: Vintage Engines & new rules clarification??
« Reply #44 on: July 14, 2010, 11:41:23 AM »
This is just like traction control, next to impossible to police.  Just curious how are the high-end data loggers that have the ignition capabilities going to be checked?  Or better yet, how do you police ignition systems with traction control? They surly have  a processor for controlling the ignition.  According to the rule book its legal across the board. Tony
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