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Offline Stan Back

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Re: +200 mph Motorcycle Safety
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2020, 05:52:58 PM »
I can barely read the fricking big numbers at 200 in place of digesting a weather report.
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Re: +200 mph Motorcycle Safety
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2020, 07:41:37 AM »
I would think you would check it before you make a run and there would be no display on the course. Probably some kind of app so the course officials and your crew and keep an eye on wind conditions before the run starts.

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Re: +200 mph Motorcycle Safety
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2020, 03:09:24 PM »
jdo  implied liability is just to great!  The hard reality is what Willi said racer error  that is the way it has to be are will will not be able to keep racing. 

Your idea is a good one but it will have to be from a group outside of the SCTA .  May be a group of racers start a weather consortium by subscription  I would most like "buy in"
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Re: +200 mph Motorcycle Safety
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2020, 04:31:24 PM »
Couple of yrs ago at BMST Bubs7 streamliner had weather stations at various sections of the track which they shared information from
sent it by group txt to those of us that expressed interest

Our big bike is limited to about 6mph wind depending on the wind direction ,If i find wind mid track over that the lean angle gets too much (it leans into the wind) and i usually let it drift off track and return , real problem starts from ~230 mph

I for one would very much like to see a display at the start with wind at the mile markers, but can see the same problems as DLRA wireless timing, that it needs special setup to work on salt .
Distance and that salt thing are the issues that need to be overcome 
 

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Re: +200 mph Motorcycle Safety
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2020, 08:35:15 PM »
Watching each of the 2020 MotoGP races has been a pleasure during lockdown.  Those guys go over 200 mph and they sometimes crash.  They have leathers with air bladders that inflate when they go down.  They prevent a lot of injuries. 

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Re: +200 mph Motorcycle Safety
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2020, 09:26:11 PM »
I am amazed there aren't more pilot chutes to stop tumbling
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Re: +200 mph Motorcycle Safety
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2020, 09:43:44 PM »
Almost every Moto GP event these days involves any number of crashes,,
Moto GP is a Professional Sport, riders are paid well and have a entourage to cater for their every need,,
Moto GP Teams have "Name" sponsers and a budget who bring the riders protection needs to the party,,
Shed based racers operate on a tight family budget,,
Helmets and Leathers, are a most important part of any riders kit, however in "Safety" thay are of secondary importance (a last resort),,
Motorcycle Safety begins with the "Motorcycle"
The only men who have exceeded 300mph on  sit-on motorcycle's (basically Modern day Sportsbikes with modified bodywork) are no longer with us,,
Top Fuel Nitro dragbikes "evolved" from modified oem frames to the specialised machines of today,,
Its time to get the conversation started on "evolving" the next generation of "Safe" +230mph Motorcycles
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Re: +200 mph Motorcycle Safety
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2020, 01:48:03 AM »
Ronnie looking from outside the square as a non competitor would small " emergency " chutes give the rider a chance to wash off some speed and maybe even stay on and ride it out . . Appreciate your input Paul
sorry didn't see the previous post .
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Re: +200 mph Motorcycle Safety
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2020, 05:40:02 AM »
"Excellent" thought Paul, this is exactly the "outta box" thinking we need for the discussion,,
 Streamliner rules require a tilt switch that deploys a chute, and we have all witnessed how effective thay are in saving both machine and pilot,,
 A "small" chute activated by the rider (at thumbs reach), said chute attached to the motorcycle would aid in gaining stability, (much the same as trailing a rope out of the back of a boat),, also, should the bike go down a chute would help prevent it end for ending, and thus have the potential of beating up on the rider,,
« Last Edit: October 09, 2020, 05:42:03 AM by stay`tee »
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Re: +200 mph Motorcycle Safety
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2020, 04:11:52 PM »
Watching each of the 2020 MotoGP races has been a pleasure during lockdown.  Those guys go over 200 mph and they sometimes crash.  They have leathers with air bladders that inflate when they go down.  They prevent a lot of injuries.
These are readily available,
After i wrecked a set of leathers in Colorado i brought an airbag suit as a replacement
figured if i could reduce that first impact the bruising would not last as long
Also dont think it will work in every circumstance , it has an inertia switch in the inbuilt back protector for activation, so a highside flick will set it off but a lowside may not activate untill you hit the ground
and it only protects the upper body , no additional protection on the lower half

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Re: +200 mph Motorcycle Safety
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2020, 09:05:54 AM »
On boats I think they work a lot like the lanyard kill switch is designed to--it activates on departure of but from seat in the boats case it stops drivers from go over the nose.  I have seen that twice in the old days---I am sure the capsules have changed the boats a lot
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