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Offline floydjer

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Re: Are we shooting ourselves in the foot ?
« Reply #45 on: June 08, 2020, 08:03:12 AM »
No matter what is done to restore the surface..we will all be long gone by the time the change is noticed. :x
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Re: Are we shooting ourselves in the foot ?
« Reply #47 on: June 17, 2020, 09:08:54 PM »
"According to a fact sheet that Gosswein shared in 2002, 1.2 mil tons pumped onto the racing surface per year lead to a thicker salt crust."

I don't recall seeing an increase in thickness! Can anybody help me out here?

If it's not left there to evaporate, how does it deposit anything?
Intrepid has already taken the potash out before pumping it back onto the flats, then after saturation time they drain it back to their ponds where they get more potash.
Logic is just absolutely drowned in BS here!
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ps, Thanks for posting that by the way.
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Offline John Burk

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Re: Are we shooting ourselves in the foot ?
« Reply #48 on: June 17, 2020, 10:27:56 PM »
Sumner who is a good researcher found that the mining company was getting the water to transport the salt back to the salt flats from near the salt flats . That meant it was already brine . The salt being pumped to the racing surface   came from racing surface . Nothing gained .

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Re: Are we shooting ourselves in the foot ?
« Reply #49 on: June 18, 2020, 04:24:25 PM »
John:  Fresh water in the quantities needed to pump north
are at a real premium.  It could be that the mine selects water
with a LOWER salt content when is flows south than when it
is pumped north, resulting in a net flow of salt north.

It would of course help the race course if the extra salt was
ALL deposited on the track, so the water table
would be further below the racing surface.

Instead of being in the middle of the bottom land like it is now .................

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Re: Are we shooting ourselves in the foot ?
« Reply #50 on: June 18, 2020, 10:32:47 PM »
"Fresh water in the quantities needed to pump north are at a real premium".

That's the big problem, even if the mining company wanted to return the salt .

"It could be that the mine selects water
with a LOWER salt content when is flows south than when it
is pumped north".

That might be true if they had the intention of doing the right thing rather than just get us off their back till they leave .

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Re: Are we shooting ourselves in the foot ?
« Reply #51 on: July 06, 2020, 12:32:52 PM »
I guess that part of my thinking was to try to find how
to help the salt with what we already have........

IF the brine/water table UNDER the track was lowered
in the critical period BEFORE the race season,
than we would have some protection from late
spring / early summer rains. 

The water "deficit" would allow the track to
return to a usable  surface more quickly.

The removed brine could stay
on the NORTH side of I-80 !

The wells are there.

The pumps are there.

How could we make this work ?

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Re: Are we shooting ourselves in the foot ?
« Reply #52 on: July 07, 2020, 02:03:21 AM »
STOP F$(K!#G MINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse:
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Re: Are we shooting ourselves in the foot ?
« Reply #53 on: July 07, 2020, 05:50:37 PM »
At last!!!

A new idea!!!

Whadaja think the Bureau of Land Mining will think of it?
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Re: Are we shooting ourselves in the foot ?
« Reply #54 on: September 26, 2020, 12:49:34 AM »
Ya'll know congress has approved funds for "restoration"
I have yet to hear the check has been cashed, so to speak.
But if the check ain't cashed, it's trash.
End of September. ...

If they need a hint on how to spend it on something other than a 25+ year failure (fraud)....

How about buying back the lease?

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Re: Are we shooting ourselves in the foot ?
« Reply #55 on: September 26, 2020, 08:28:00 AM »
Shoot!
Federal judge removes acting director of BLM.

There goes that idea
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Re: Are we shooting ourselves in the foot ?
« Reply #56 on: September 28, 2020, 07:45:32 PM »
i'm kind of late to the conversation, but i know where some of the salt is going, because i took it away.

over on the east side are the containment ponds for morton, among other salt distributors.

i would show up in my 48 foot flat bed, take care of the paperwork, pull into the loading area and then they would load me with 14 or 16 pallets of bagged salt--- 47,000 pounds per truckload. i would then drive to home improvement stores in places like sioux falls, where they would sell it to people to put on their driveways. the setup was good for a lot of trucks per day. i don't know how many, but they had harness gantries for tarping the load, and only big operations do that.

lots of salt in the east comes from salt mines underground, but why drill a mine when you have the salt flats?

47,000 pounds doesn't sound like much, until you do 100 trucks a day for 60 years.

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Re: Are we shooting ourselves in the foot ?
« Reply #57 on: September 29, 2020, 01:17:16 AM »
Thanks for the numbers that indicate the volume of salt depletion.
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Re: Are we shooting ourselves in the foot ?
« Reply #58 on: September 29, 2020, 07:06:09 AM »
100 trucks a day (24hours), so your saying that for the last 60years a truck loaded with salt has pulled out every 2.5 minutes, huh :roll:
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Re: Are we shooting ourselves in the foot ?
« Reply #59 on: September 29, 2020, 12:11:55 PM »
. . . plus the rail cars.

(This is a great example of the government "managing" our national resources.
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