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Offline J79

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Re: The Blue Flame's 50th Anniversary
« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2020, 09:16:11 PM »
MAYOMAN. Do you remember this rocket assisted drag car? 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 Tobacco King Rocket Car.
Youtube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkMccsMvlgk&fbclid=IwAR1VDQEpusWVux2ZYLOipeaSrOvJib7Pqs98dcoyMcb9_cz8ExvX85n6q9Q

Sold for $375,000 at Mecum Auction May 2008.  https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0508-65922/1964-ford-galaxie-500/?fbclid=IwAR2IdVyi-vDuR9BJ54vpQU4sFmWnlCOfBciljoqDE5NkYJjjVps9Tg3Codw
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Re: The Blue Flame's 50th Anniversary
« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2020, 11:23:54 PM »
Turbonique advertised in the hotrodding magazine, in the 1960s.


A Turbonique Rocket GoKart.


Here's the Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbonique

During the 1960s, thrills were more important than safety.
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Re: The Blue Flame's 50th Anniversary
« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2020, 05:06:10 PM »
My recollection is that these Turbonique products were NOT rockets, but were more akin to a turboshaft powerplant. They did not use thrust to provide performance but rather provided a torque input at the differential. The fuel was a liquid monopropellant, not requiring an oxidizer to burn/decompose producing heat.
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Re: The Blue Flame's 50th Anniversary
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2020, 05:21:00 PM »
Quote from: MAYOMAN on February 26, 2020, 05:06:10 PM
My recollection is that these Turbonique products were NOT rockets, but were more akin to a turboshaft powerplant.
They made rockets too.
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Re: The Blue Flame's 50th Anniversary
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2020, 08:24:59 PM »
I vaguely recall seeing a small rocket from Turbonique that resembled a soccer ball with a tiny nozzle. Probably what was on that go-kart in the photo. I don't know what thrust was developed. Also, I believe one of them exploded at a drag strip.
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Re: The Blue Flame's 50th Anniversary
« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2020, 09:14:02 PM »
Quote from: MAYOMAN on February 26, 2020, 05:06:10 PM
My recollection is that these Turbonique products were NOT rockets, but were more akin to a turboshaft powerplant. They did not use thrust to provide performance but rather provided a torque input at the differential. The fuel was a liquid monopropellant, not requiring an oxidizer to burn/decompose producing heat.

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I vaguely recall seeing a small rocket from Turbonique that resembled a soccer ball with a tiny nozzle.

Yes, your recollection is right.



With inflation $200.00 1965 dollars is worth about $1,635 in 2020 dollars. I'm halfway surprised I didn't buy one

Axle with Tubonique.




Supercharger powered by Turbonique.

What would a NHRA or SCTA inspector say about one of these?
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Re: The Blue Flame's 50th Anniversary
« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2020, 10:52:28 PM »
Was that "Snake" (Don Prudhomme) on the left?
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Re: The Blue Flame's 50th Anniversary
« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2020, 08:01:14 AM »
Not the snake. He has a "Turbonique" emblem on his shirt left side. The name on the right side emblem is not clear, but not "Don" or "Prudhomme".
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Re: The Blue Flame's 50th Anniversary
« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2020, 07:48:47 PM »
. . . and the nickname is "The Snake", not just Snake.
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Re: The Blue Flame's 50th Anniversary
« Reply #39 on: February 29, 2020, 10:08:25 AM »
OK back to topic....
Some years ago, at one of the early Cook Events I think, I spent some time under a viewing tent that was erected across from the middle of the mile.  I think it was the year there were multiple 400+ cars and good salt.  One of the guys was building a tall scaffolding to shoot pictures... the rest of us were just sitting in the shade bullshitting...
A couple drove up, asked if they could join us... nicest folks you could imagine... we were all talking about our cars, all cars, fast cars... and all the sudden it occurred to me this guy was talking about a fast car... then his wife mentioned "the" record... I had not met Dick Keller before... but he is an impressive guy... and a regular guy.
Wow... 50 years... last American car to hold the record...
Congrats to Dick and team...
As it happens Linda and I will be in Germany in October... a minor manipulation on my part  :evil: ... and going to the Sinsheim Museum on October 23rd...  :-o
So other than Pork Pie (I'm betting he will be there) anyone else going?
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Re: The Blue Flame's 50th Anniversary
« Reply #40 on: February 29, 2020, 11:31:26 AM »
Hey Stainless. I was there.  :cheers: I remember the scaffold and Dick and his wife. I also remember the helicopter that would go up whenever a car ran so you couldn't hear the sounds of the car.
Wayno
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Re: The Blue Flame's 50th Anniversary
« Reply #41 on: February 29, 2020, 12:39:34 PM »
Stainless;

Enjoy your time in Germany; there is lots to see and do. I spent a couple of years there... carrying an M-14.  :-)  Get up to the Nurburgring if you can.
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Re: The Blue Flame's 50th Anniversary
« Reply #42 on: February 29, 2020, 04:43:57 PM »
Re:  Sinsheim Oct 23

I'd like to go.

Talk is cheap.

We'll see.
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Re: The Blue Flame's 50th Anniversary
« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2020, 02:59:26 AM »
There is also a Museum in Speyer, not far away from Sinsheim, with a lot of cars, airplanes...

https://sinsheim.technik-museum.de/en/

https://speyer.technik-museum.de/en/

In Stuttgart you can visit the Porsche and Mercedes-Benz Museums.

In Neckarsulm is the NSU Museum with many motorcycles.

Welcome to Germany.



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Re: The Blue Flame's 50th Anniversary
« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2020, 10:01:01 AM »
So now, after 50 years, and the excited staff at the Technik Museum working hard to celebrate the occasion, the China Flu may have postponed or cancelled the Anniversary Celebration.

I am still interested in going in October, but it may not be possible with various pandemic international travel restrictions. We shall see.

Maybe I can make the next one in 2070 - if I don't catch the China Flu.
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