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Bonneville Comparison: 2018 vs. 2019
« on: September 30, 2019, 01:58:08 PM »
The number of records set in 2019 at Speedweek were way down when compared to 2018.  On the other hand, there was only a slight decrease over the same period for World of Speed.  World Finals was rained out in both years.  Here's a count:

      2018 - Records Set      2019 - Records Set
               SW       WoS           SW       WoS   
Cars         100       26              8          22
Bikes         79         9             17           8
Totals       179       35            25         30
Grand Total    214                       55

Additionally, 23 new members were inducted into the Bonneville 200 MPH Club in 2018, but just 5 in 2019.

What conclusions can be drawn?  I don't think there was much of a drop-off in entries.   But it's obvious that course conditions can certainly be different from one year to the next!   Is anybody still stuck out where the return road joined up with the staging lanes at Speedweek?

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------------- 1 of just 3 in all 3  -------------
USFRA 130 MPH Club 09/18/2008 136.757
USFRA 150 MPH Club 09/17/2009 152.162
Bonneville 200 MPH Club 09/15/2019 218.600
Best Run: 253.080 MPH 09/14/2019 #6556

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Re: Bonneville Comparison: 2018 vs. 2019
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2019, 05:48:26 PM »
The number of records set in 2019 at Speedweek were way down when compared to 2018.  On the other hand, there was only a slight decrease over the same period for World of Speed.  World Finals was rained out in both years.  Here's a count:

      2018 - Records Set      2019 - Records Set
               SW       WoS           SW       WoS   
Cars         100       26              8          22
Bikes         79         9             17           8
Totals       179       35            25         30
Grand Total    214                       55

Additionally, 23 new members were inducted into the Bonneville 200 MPH Club in 2018, but just 5 in 2019.

What conclusions can be drawn?  I don't think there was much of a drop-off in entries.   But it's obvious that course conditions can certainly be different from one year to the next!   Is anybody still stuck out where the return road joined up with the staging lanes at Speedweek?

Jeff in Boise


    Having had the opportunity to make a run this August on what was a useless racing surface covered with ruts from being to soft to support most cars i can say Im shocked how the surface by Septemeber was in such great shape for records to be set. Theres more to it than just the coarse conditions one example the timers.  But one will never know why the difference is so extreme one month latter. Last years surface was certainly the best ever in a very long time even though it was very thin at times no more than one inch thick. One suggestion I have how about using some type of surface tension/torque meter to determine if the surface is suitable for safe runs with the potential for record runs prior to the event. A bunch of thought is needed on such a radical idea.  Conducting an event on a poor surface is a waste for so many.
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Re: Bonneville Comparison: 2018 vs. 2019
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2019, 08:35:19 AM »
Number of runs at over 400 mph:
-       2018 - 18 (including 9 at 446+)
-       2019 - 0

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Re: Bonneville Comparison: 2018 vs. 2019
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2019, 03:59:21 PM »
 Having spent a lot of time learning about the salt & the mining to help educate other racers get the real story, let me explain the difference between 18 & 19.
 It all comes down to the weather patterns & now that there is so little salt crust left on Bonneville it results in extreme differences.
 2018 weather was a fairly normal snow pack then spring broke early with very little rain. Spring & summer were unusually dry but also we didn't have any wind. We are right on the jet stream path here & last summer it stayed north of us. Without the wind effect on the surface, it dried smooth on top. The three previous years when the surface was like a golf ball, that was created by the wind that made divots as it dried. Another factor to 18 being so good was the lack of entrants that had obviously had a gut full of bad salt & just never made the trip. Remember, Saturday afternoon was so quiet on the courses it felt like Monday or Tuesday.
 This year's weather pattern can only be explained as wet & windy, the exact opposite to last year. We rolled into spring from snow to rain & it just never stopped raining or blowing. I've been here 20 yrs now & this year is the wettest I've ever seen. I expected the salt was going to be garbage & then it rained Wednesday & again Thursday, I didn't even leave home!
 SCTA & USFRA do the best they can with what they have to work with but if you take a rust bucket to the paint shop & get a coat of paint thrown over it, you just have a painted rust bucket!
 Watch the weather patterns next year to get some idea in advance of what to expect.
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Re: Bonneville Comparison: 2018 vs. 2019
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2019, 04:08:04 PM »
Sid said:  "if you take a rust bucket to the paint shop & get a coat of paint thrown over it, you just have a painted rust bucket!"

And Earl Scheib said "I'll paint any car for $29.95!".  That would have been in the 1950s and probably didn't include such frills as washing, sanding, prepping, taping, etc.

You do remember Earl Scheib, don't you?
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Re: Bonneville Comparison: 2018 vs. 2019
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2019, 09:31:11 AM »
Earl S. would "paint any car, any color", for Cheap.  Cars were chemically sanded!  And even painted the wheels.  Masking was pretty sloppy.  Metallics and rust repair was extra.  The one on 8 mile in Detroit might have survived into the 70's. 
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Re: Bonneville Comparison: 2018 vs. 2019
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2019, 11:23:22 AM »
I remember Old Earl was $99.95 in the 80's gosh darn inflation.  They had colors nobody else had as well.

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Re: Bonneville Comparison: 2018 vs. 2019
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2019, 11:43:37 AM »
Earl Scheib was my first real paying job.  Masking, clean up, etc....
Our motto was:
"We'll paint any car for $29.95........ If you leave the windows down, we'll do the interior for free."