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Re: Simspeed UWD LSR Design Project
« Reply #300 on: October 26, 2019, 01:03:35 PM »
A vacuum might be created just by the speed of the car and the inability of the surrounding air to refill the space underneath the car above an unknown "balance" speed.
Given a really long course, a sucker system would be perhaps superfluous. It would likely be useful to shorten the distance to speed.

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Re: Simspeed UWD LSR Design Project
« Reply #301 on: October 26, 2019, 02:33:07 PM »
How about buying a used fighter plane, taking off from say Wendover, circling around until you're over the speed of sound, flying an inch or two off the salt, maybe touching here or there, making sure you activate the clocks, then looping back on a return run over the same mile and landing for the trophy presentation?

Are there any flaws in this concept?
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Re: Simspeed UWD LSR Design Project
« Reply #302 on: October 26, 2019, 03:06:55 PM »
How about buying a used fighter plane, taking off from say Wendover, circling around until you're over the speed of sound, flying an inch or two off the salt, maybe touching here or there, making sure you activate the clocks, then looping back on a return run over the same mile and landing for the trophy presentation?

Are there any flaws in this concept?
For safety's sake, maybe you should equip the plane with really long-travel landing gear, like 20 feet. A laser-controlled aerodynamic ride height system could be used. I can't find anything in the rules prohibiting this.

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Re: Simspeed UWD LSR Design Project
« Reply #303 on: October 26, 2019, 03:29:44 PM »
I've found a partner!

Too bad we're both too old to put it together on our computers.

(You got any money?)
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Re: Simspeed UWD LSR Design Project
« Reply #304 on: October 26, 2019, 04:13:37 PM »
How about buying a used fighter plane, taking off from say Wendover, circling around until you're over the speed of sound, flying an inch or two off the salt, maybe touching here or there, making sure you activate the clocks, then looping back on a return run over the same mile and landing for the trophy presentation?

Are there any flaws in this concept?
I'd say your attitude mainly Stan...but no one said you have to take any of this seriously.  Make of it what you will and I'll respond accordingly.  Thanks... Terry

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Re: Simspeed UWD LSR Design Project
« Reply #305 on: October 26, 2019, 04:15:28 PM »
A vacuum might be created just by the speed of the car and the inability of the surrounding air to refill the space underneath the car above an unknown "balance" speed.
Given a really long course, a sucker system would be perhaps superfluous. It would likely be useful to shorten the distance to speed.
That's the main idea I think Tortoise... Thanks, Terry.

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Re: Simspeed UWD LSR Design Project
« Reply #306 on: October 26, 2019, 04:19:24 PM »
Terry said:  "...but no one said you have to take any of this seriously."

Terry, Stan is being serious - for him.  You just gotta spend a few years on the salt with him to learn his style, k?
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Re: Simspeed UWD LSR Design Project
« Reply #307 on: October 26, 2019, 04:46:39 PM »
How many planes are capable of the speed of sound at low level with the landing gear down?

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Re: Simspeed UWD LSR Design Project
« Reply #308 on: October 26, 2019, 04:59:11 PM »
Well, I suppose all of 'em are if they're pointed straight down at the ground under full power,,, lol8
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Re: Simspeed UWD LSR Design Project
« Reply #309 on: October 26, 2019, 06:21:17 PM »
I believe that this could be taken more seriously if there was some testing taking place rather than assumptions. Having experience both with the metal spraying process and running a race car on salt, I think you really need a real world understanding of your expected results. I would say the same thing about a sucker system. A simple box and fan could be utilized on salt to see if this is even something to consider. Let alone design around. Before Jack Costella builds cutting edge stuff he builds riding models and proves the plan. It seems to work quite well in practice.

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Re: Simspeed UWD LSR Design Project
« Reply #310 on: October 26, 2019, 07:10:33 PM »
We must remember that Mr. Costella's vehicles do not go thru the air -- they go under it.
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Re: Simspeed UWD LSR Design Project
« Reply #311 on: October 27, 2019, 01:00:47 AM »
Terry said:  "...but no one said you have to take any of this seriously."

Terry, Stan is being serious - for him.  You just gotta spend a few years on the salt with him to learn his style, k?
I understand Slim...thanks for the clarification.  No harm...no foul.
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Re: Simspeed UWD LSR Design Project
« Reply #312 on: October 27, 2019, 01:06:00 AM »
I believe that this could be taken more seriously if there was some testing taking place rather than assumptions. Having experience both with the metal spraying process and running a race car on salt, I think you really need a real world understanding of your expected results. I would say the same thing about a sucker system. A simple box and fan could be utilized on salt to see if this is even something to consider. Let alone design around. Before Jack Costella builds cutting edge stuff he builds riding models and proves the plan. It seems to work quite well in practice.
Rich...for now assumptions are all I can afford.  Pre-development testing should be standard for for all new ideas, and we have more than a few included in this design. We'll see what the new year brings.  Thanks... Terry.

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Re: Simspeed UWD LSR Design Project
« Reply #313 on: October 27, 2019, 02:23:10 AM »
Silly question, as I'm reading this without a lot of enthusiasm, but have you had any conversations with blue www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1554 ?

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Re: Simspeed UWD LSR Design Project
« Reply #314 on: October 27, 2019, 08:09:23 AM »
Silly question, as I'm reading this without a lot of enthusiasm, but have you had any conversations with blue www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1554 ?

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Hi Mike,
No I haven't.  I don't believe Blue has commented on this design project.  Thanks for asking... Terry