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Re: Ed Pink builds replica of LSR Flathead Ford
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2019, 06:52:16 PM »
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Re: Ed Pink builds replica of LSR Flathead Ford
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2019, 08:46:27 PM »
But the replica head is completely different from an actual Briggs head - no transfer area, no quench, the charge delivery to the bore and flame front look nothing like the inside of a Ford or H-D.

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Re: Ed Pink builds replica of LSR Flathead Ford
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2019, 11:17:22 PM »
But it does look like fun!  :-D :-D :-D

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Re: Ed Pink builds replica of LSR Flathead Ford
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2019, 12:22:25 AM »
But the replica head is completely different from an actual Briggs head - no transfer area, no quench, the charge delivery to the bore and flame front look nothing like the inside of a Ford or H-D.

The youtuber is a high-speed video guy, not a car guy.  :-D  Wonder how much one of those cameras cost?   :mrgreen:

I wonder if Stan Back can view this video with his steam-powered computer strangely named after a winter coat?  :evil:

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Re: Ed Pink builds replica of LSR Flathead Ford
« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2019, 08:54:15 AM »
The announced purpose of the video was to show how combustion occurs inside a flathead engine.
It doesn't do that, and I don't think he understands.

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Re: Ed Pink builds replica of LSR Flathead Ford
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2019, 04:32:30 PM »
Interesting to watch the flow of the alcohol, which was mostly fluid, as it goes over the exhaust valve. Looks like sinking the exhaust valve a little would help. Flat heads are a real conundrum, to get compression you reduce the transfer area and vise versa.Some of the things that have been done with flatheads it looks like transfer area is the thing to chase. I have seen them with counter bores in the head above the inlet valve to let the valve open  farther and then more cam timing is used to keep the valve in the pocket and out of the way of the inlet flow. I think that HD actually canted the valves away from the cylinder to increase flow.

Pink is pretty gutsy to turn 5500 with a three main crank, but with the French block and a good billet crank it must be possible.

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Re: Ed Pink builds replica of LSR Flathead Ford
« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2019, 10:12:52 PM »
Interesting to watch the flow of the alcohol, which was mostly fluid, as it goes over the exhaust valve. Looks like sinking the exhaust valve a little would help. Flat heads are a real conundrum, to get compression you reduce the transfer area and vise versa.Some of the things that have been done with flatheads it looks like transfer area is the thing to chase. I have seen them with counter bores in the head above the inlet valve to let the valve open  farther and then more cam timing is used to keep the valve in the pocket and out of the way of the inlet flow. I think that HD actually canted the valves away from the cylinder to increase flow.

Pink is pretty gutsy to turn 5500 with a three main crank, but with the French block and a good billet crank it must be possible.

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   Theres still a number of pretty gutsy Ford flathead racers turning well north of 6 grand each year with three main bearings at Speedweek. A good steel crank works wonders for strength and reliability.
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Re: Ed Pink builds replica of LSR Flathead Ford
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2019, 01:25:25 AM »
During my couple decades of mini-rod pulling, we often shared the track with modified garden pullers. I got intrigued with cylinder filling of flatheads. A few of my billet heads are doing well- for example, one Kohler 16 HP-based engine on alcohol is making just over 100 HP. But I'm sworn to secrecy on the details... :wink:
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Re: Ed Pink builds replica of LSR Flathead Ford
« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2019, 03:11:21 PM »
During my couple decades of mini-rod pulling, we often shared the track with modified garden pullers. I got intrigued with cylinder filling of flatheads. A few of my billet heads are doing well- for example, one Kohler 16 HP-based engine on alcohol is making just over 100 HP. But I'm sworn to secrecy on the details... :wink:





  Not surprised with that results Jack keeping up on the junior dragster and pulling single cylinder flathead engines designs has shown many the possibility.  From my personal experience just on gasoline we see easily 2HP per cube out of the old Ford flathead V-8 platform but this is the 21st century so anything is possible all it takes is a whole lot of time and experimentation. How we do it is of course sworn to secrecy.  Whats being done today can be had for a price. One of my all time heroes Bob Glidden who once offered his all concurring Hemi Ford pro stock engine for sale when he was dominating those GM big blocks for a million dollars all it takes is money no one went for that but it was once offered the same can be had for the flatheads of today just saying.  :cheers:
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 LTA    XF/BGRMR  Record 200.921 First  Ever Ford Flathead Roadster to hit 200 MPH burning gasoline July 2018
 SCTA  XF/BGRMR Record 205.744  First gas burning Ford flathead powered roadster to top 200 MPH at Bonneville August 7, 2021 top speed 219.717
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