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« on: October 16, 2018, 02:34:40 PM »

I sometimes wonder, if you are making a run with no chance and no intention of breaking a record, is your run less valid than one made with the intent and preparation necessary to break a record? In other words, should only those vehicles/teams that are serious about breaking records be allowed to run? Or is running at 75% of a record a valid use of the SCTA's time and personnel? I'm wondering because last year I ran for records, got one and then sold my vehicle last winter. I want to get some more time on the lake bed, but will not have a competitive vehicle, and frankly I'm not sure I ever will spend what is necessary to win records again. For $5K I can get a vehicle capable of going over 175, but no where near a record. Is that OK? If I take my "slow" vehicle, and can come back meet after meet, and eek out another mile per hour or two, I'd consider that a personal victory. Is that type of racing frowned upon?

These are rhetorical questions, because I know if I spend my money and volunteer my time with my club, no one can really stop me. Just wondering what the general feeling of racers is on this issue.
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2018, 02:39:24 PM »

Having never made a pass myself, in my opinion, it's all about the experience.  No records needed.

BUT!  I believe that you will soon get the itch to once again fight for a record.

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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2018, 02:50:48 PM »

If only those with serious possibility of running record ran.  The SCTA would go broke. And nobody would be able to run.
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2018, 03:04:49 PM »

Here's  my personal example:  A few years back I wanted to make some runs on my Icebreaker - the nitrous bike.  I wasn't going to spray and knew I'd be lucky to get within 20% of the record speed.  I made runs - later in the day, and later in the week, when the lines weren't long.  I'd get to the line and tell Jim that I wanted to make a easy run on the long course - certainly over the 175, for sure -- he'd say "Go ahead and have fun.  You've done enough work for the day" and so on.  After all -- we volunteers are racers, too (for the most part), and we enjoy going down the course, too.

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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2018, 03:30:35 PM »

If only those with serious possibility of running record ran.  The SCTA would go broke. And nobody would be able to run.

This is true. And I will add to the that by saying that "most" participants are not competitive for records either.  90 percent of the records are set by 10 percent of the people.  Just please don't have me sitting in my car behind a van that I think has one bike in it and then pull out 4!   
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2018, 03:51:44 PM »

Ahh, Philosophy . . . the academic's bench-racing.

In my case, it's not about me - it's about the car.

The only reason I had a record in my name is because the fellow I wanted to have drive it couldn't attend the event.

For me, it's about building the vehicle to take on the record.



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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2018, 04:33:31 PM »

If only those with serious possibility of running record ran.  The SCTA would go broke. And nobody would be able to run.

This is true. And I will add to the that by saying that "most" participants are not competitive for records either.  90 percent of the records are set by 10 percent of the people.  Just please don't have me sitting in my car behind a van that I think has one bike in it and then pull out 4!  

That's OK, if its Noonan, at least one bike will be a push vehicle.
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2018, 11:34:43 PM »

NOT only YES but hockey sticks yes   Rich Fox is spot on
Choppie I am not with you on this----those bikes  paid the same fee as you and you had to move up 3  less times, and you wait  will be way less than if they were cars you had to wait to run
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2018, 11:32:28 AM »

NOT only YES but hockey sticks yes   Rich Fox is spot on
Choppie I am not with you on this----those bikes  paid the same fee as you and you had to move up 3  less times, and you wait  will be way less than if they were cars you had to wait to run


I agree I have no problem with waiting.  However I don't want to suit up in teh car 30 minutes sooner than necessary sitting in the heat,  because  there are many more in line than I thought.  One of the reasons the wait is long is because people aren't ready when they should be and I will not be that guy.  Everyone wants to complain about waiting but I can gaurantee that most are part of the problem not the solution.  At one point at the World Finals,  I literally could not find a participant ready to run even thought there were over 10 deep in line..
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2018, 11:34:12 AM »

I got to make the 300 line this year!  One of my personal lsr goals,
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2018, 05:06:44 PM »

 cheers  One of my goals with the new car haven't gotten there yet
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2018, 06:52:59 PM »

I got to make the 300 line this year!  One of my personal lsr goals,


  I thought you just had to make a run over 300 to get in the 300 line.

  Do you have to hold a record over 300?

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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2018, 07:52:12 PM »

8/11: 89 B BGS Eddies Chop Shop 352.573   cheers

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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2018, 09:13:50 PM »

8/11: 89 B BGS Eddies Chop Shop 352.573   cheers

Mike

  Yeah, Eddie had a time over 400 mph and I thought that would qualify for the 300 line

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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2018, 10:02:02 AM »

I'll say that I have as much respect for those who run and aren't competitive as those who are competitive because at least they're out there running. 
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