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Re: Simpson Arm restaint ... Does it meet the new rule?
« Reply #60 on: March 13, 2018, 02:16:22 PM »
Just and FYI, I have Stroud restraints sown on the suit. Bob fixed me up with new "legal" 3-bar tethers for 30 bucks.






  Are you sure the sown on location will meet the rule which if I read this correctly is now at the wrist?

As posted above rule says," NON sewn in restraints must be at the narrowest part of the arm" (wrist).
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Re: Simpson Arm restaint ... Does it meet the new rule?
« Reply #61 on: March 13, 2018, 02:51:09 PM »
Mine are the same as Mikes pics. actually better with the steel attaching point. I am showing up in may with these. Someone official needs tho straighten this $hit out and stop all the spectulation

Brian, yours are not the same as what Mike posted.  You have the exact same ones I do with a slip adjuster EXCEPT that a 3 bar has been added on.  You see that little fabric tab that's on the end of what you're calling the attaching point?  That's for releasing the adjuster to loosen/lengthen the tether.  I don't think I'm reaching too far but it looks to me that all they did was just throw on a 3 bar adjuster to lock down the tail end of the tether. 
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Re: Simpson Arm restaint ... Does it meet the new rule?
« Reply #62 on: March 13, 2018, 02:57:54 PM »
Then that makes them legal
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Re: Simpson Arm restaint ... Does it meet the new rule?
« Reply #63 on: March 13, 2018, 03:06:48 PM »
That's good news for me if that's true.  I'm confirming on my end. 
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Re: Simpson Arm restaint ... Does it meet the new rule?
« Reply #64 on: March 13, 2018, 03:49:02 PM »
phuq it!! I just sent them back with a pic of yours Nathan. :-D :cheers: better safe than sorry
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Re: Simpson Arm restaint ... Does it meet the new rule?
« Reply #65 on: March 13, 2018, 04:07:24 PM »
Well don't jump too far ahead... let me see if the added 3 bar is acceptable or not.  Honestly that's what I had thought about doing to the DJ restraints I already have but wasn't sure if it'd fly or not.
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Re: Simpson Arm restaint ... Does it meet the new rule?
« Reply #66 on: March 13, 2018, 04:11:35 PM »
I've been texting with Big Ben and he thinks mine will be ok . He just informed me he doesn't make the ones you pictured any more.
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Re: Simpson Arm restaint ... Does it meet the new rule?
« Reply #67 on: March 13, 2018, 08:39:44 PM »
  I got the ones like Sumner posted from Deist. Took a while to find the proper part number to get them ordered but I was able to get them from Jegs. Couldn't find anybody else.
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Re: Simpson Arm restaint ... Does it meet the new rule?
« Reply #68 on: March 14, 2018, 08:50:44 AM »
Well i still cant see why my new G-Force #4087adubk wont work?3 bar adjuster and i only use the attachment from belts to my sewn in rings on my sleeves.I do not use the arm wraps,(not mandatory per rules if I am reading correctly). Cant post a pic,sorry
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Re: Simpson Arm restaint ... Does it meet the new rule?
« Reply #69 on: March 14, 2018, 09:49:17 AM »


That sure looks like a welded ring on one end to me and the quick latch from my dog's leash on the other.  I think it's time to spend $50 and get some better stuff.  The arms you save could be your own.
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Re: Simpson Arm restaint ... Does it meet the new rule?
« Reply #70 on: March 14, 2018, 10:11:09 AM »
Here's what I know right now.  The Deist restraint meets the letter of the rule to a tee.  Simply adding a 3 bar to the loose end of a quick adjust type restraint doesn't exactly meet the letter of the rule.  I think there's some discussion going on as to whether or not there's a enough grey area fuzz around the wording of the rule to allow an added 3 bar to be acceptable.   

The Deist part number is 60019.  Google results for that come up with two relevant results - one is the Deist catalog (which is showcasing SA95 helmets) and the other is some performance shop with an old outdated website that may have stocked these 10 years ago.  Someone I talked to says you can get the 60019 from Deist right now and then Brian says that Ben from DJ is saying "they" don't make them any more.  As best I know it, the 60019 from Deist, if it can be found, is possibly the only restraint that meets the rule as intended right now. 

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Re: Simpson Arm restaint ... Does it meet the new rule?
« Reply #71 on: March 14, 2018, 12:03:24 PM »


That sure looks like a welded ring on one end to me and the quick latch from my dog's leash on the other.  I think it's time to spend $50 and get some better stuff.  The arms you save could be your own.
thanks for posting,$50 is a non issue,the way I read the rule is it is only talking about adjusters,but I must be wrong.Thanks for info and I look forward to getting correct parts #s so I can place my order!
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Re: Simpson Arm restaint ... Does it meet the new rule?
« Reply #72 on: March 14, 2018, 04:22:17 PM »
Joe- have you had any feedback from Stroud or other suit/harness mfg's?
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Re: Simpson Arm restaint ... Does it meet the new rule?
« Reply #73 on: March 14, 2018, 08:14:55 PM »
Here's what I know right now.  The Deist restraint meets the letter of the rule to a tee.  Simply adding a 3 bar to the loose end of a quick adjust type restraint doesn't exactly meet the letter of the rule.  I think there's some discussion going on as to whether or not there's a enough grey area fuzz around the wording of the rule to allow an added 3 bar to be acceptable.   

The Deist part number is 60019.  Google results for that come up with two relevant results - one is the Deist catalog (which is showcasing SA95 helmets) and the other is some performance shop with an old outdated website that may have stocked these 10 years ago.  Someone I talked to says you can get the 60019 from Deist right now and then Brian says that Ben from DJ is saying "they" don't make them any more.  As best I know it, the 60019 from Deist, if it can be found, is possibly the only restraint that meets the rule as intended right now. 

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Re: Simpson Arm restaint ... Does it meet the new rule?
« Reply #74 on: March 14, 2018, 10:49:42 PM »
I have Deist arm restraints built into my -20 gloves, love them. I have a pair that is a little small for me if anyone's interested.