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Offline knucklenutz

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A proposal
« on: October 22, 2017, 09:36:33 AM »
I did not attend  BMST this year. I am preparing a Knucklehead to run and am still a distance from completion. I did follow ( as closely as possible ) this years event.  I understand that attendance of competitors was down significantly. Reports of very long queue waits were rampant. After Skyping with on of my Pass The Salt Please team partners, I wish to offer up a suggestion. It would seem that a drastic rule/procedure change might be in order. Contemplate this :
 Make a single direction run fir record purposes. OR, make a two run record that is done from the same direction.  Perhaps radical, yet at the same time , it might save BMST.

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Re: A proposal
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2017, 10:02:45 AM »
The decision to go or not go to the meet was made before we knew about the single course layout.  The economy is doing good and lots of folks have jobs and money.  Why the low turnout?

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Re: A proposal
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2017, 04:58:05 PM »
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Re: A proposal
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2017, 04:32:01 PM »
I respectfully suggest that comments on my proposal continue to be aired here on this forum so that we can all see what others feel .

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Re: A proposal
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2017, 07:34:20 PM »
Nuckles, this Forum is about as open as it gets - and you're more than welcome to ask for debate about your ideas.  I'll cautiously remind you, though, that while BMST folks might read what here (a la Pippa) -- they can do what they wish to consider your (or anyone's) input.

In other words, don't be bummed if you don't get full two-way discussion.  Landracing dot com is the messenger. . . :|
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Re: A proposal
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2017, 03:10:55 PM »
Knuckles.

I would not want that as it would make the event even more different than the SCTA/BNI sanctioned events as far as whether the AMA records hold as much prestige as those.  What I would like to see is the BMST adopt the rule that if you set a record you go to impound and make your return run the next morning like the other events.  This would achieve the same "speed up the event: effect you are going for and make it a more universal format like the other races. 

The stupid FIM rule that the back-up run must be made within 2 hours should be done away with as it only causes problems and requires extra staff for the escorts that are needed. The expenses for the vehicle and the person driving the escort vehicle could be used so much better in other ways.

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Re: A proposal
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2017, 04:21:11 PM »
Both runs same direction, or one day interval?
Defeats a major feature of the rapid 2-way: it filters out wind speed.

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Re: A proposal
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2017, 10:43:46 AM »
NHRS, I fully support your idea. BSMT racers please continue to air your thoughts.

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Re: A proposal
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2017, 11:47:47 AM »
back up runs in the opposite direction the next morning just like SCTA.  Wind might be better or worse the next day, that's just the way the game is played.

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Re: A proposal
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2017, 04:52:29 PM »
SCTA back-up runs haven't been in the opposite direction for years.
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Re: A proposal
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2017, 05:43:09 PM »
You know, i thought the whole return run thing was working fine , the second run has to be done and thats what takes the track time no matter how its organised in the background,

It was unfortunate this year that the conditions and entry numbers meant there was only one track and it was a bit of a wait,
esp in the first day or so as everyone settled in to a routine


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Re: A proposal
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2017, 10:40:45 AM »
SCTA back-up runs haven't been in the opposite direction for years.

They are not?  So SCTA snactioned meets at Bonneville are only run in one direction? 

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Re: A proposal
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2017, 10:45:21 AM »
That's correct - one way only since the early '00s.  The first time Nancy qualified we made her backup run from mountain to freeway (well, so to speak).  Ask Noonan when it was - I remember we helped him with a bit of air for his drive tire so I know he'd qualified, too.  I don't know if that particular year was the last, but it was soon thereafter if not.  FIA/FIM still runs both ways, of course.
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Re: A proposal
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2017, 02:19:27 PM »
 If you go back to a previous posting you will find a link to the AMA Supplemental regulations, and see how to offer your thoughts on any rules change.

See CHAPTER ONE - COMPETITION PROCEDURES - PAGE 17
1.Q. REQUEST FOR RULE CHANGES
All Rule requests must be made in writing to the Promoter. All rule changes are subject to approval by the AMA.

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Re: A proposal
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2017, 02:37:06 PM »
SCTA back-up runs haven't been in the opposite direction for years.

They are not?  So SCTA snactioned meets at Bonneville are only run in one direction? 

Well then I would like to see the backup runs ran the next morning in the same direction just like SCTA does now.  :-D