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Offline desotoman

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September 13, 1948
« on: September 13, 2017, 09:26:51 PM »
Rollie Free.

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Re: September 13, 1948
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2017, 01:20:04 AM »
The word in the bottom right corner speaks volumes. 8-)
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Re: September 13, 1948
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2017, 03:05:12 AM »
69 years ago. Wow.
So. Who will be doing a tribute next year?
Still one of the best photos from the flats all this time on.
Cheers for posting it Tom.

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Re: September 13, 1948
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2017, 07:47:30 AM »
Rollie Free.

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Whose record did he break?

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Re: September 13, 1948
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2017, 07:38:00 PM »
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Re: September 13, 1948
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2017, 08:15:57 PM »
It was one of those barriers similar to the first 200 mph mark, 250, and 300.  We all remember who broke 300, who broke 200, 250?
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Offline Jack Gifford

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Re: September 13, 1948
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2017, 12:44:00 AM »
... Whose record did he break?...
Were they both (existing and Rollie's) SCTA records? Under auspices of USAC or AMA? I'm just curious.
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Re: September 13, 1948
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2017, 01:13:57 AM »
I think it was just a AMA Class A record. Two years later he broke his old record at 156+mph. Who's record did he break in 1948?
Joe Petrali held the record 136+ since 1937 on an Harley.
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Re: September 13, 1948
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2017, 06:02:46 AM »
It was one of those barriers similar to the first 200 mph mark, 250, and 300.  We all remember who broke 300, who broke 200, 250?

First over 250 mph was Don Vesco in 1970 (FIM, AMA and SCTA records at 251.9xx mph on 17 September).

First over 200 mph was Wilhelm Herz (FIM, AMA and SCTA records at 210+ mph on 4 August 1956).  The exact speeds are hard to pin down.  Russell Wright and Johnny Allen came close, but the NSU team was the first to get there.  Herz's son, Heinz, has written an excellent article (English translation published in Fast Facts, the newsletter of the Speed Record Club) on the race to 200 mph.  He is also writing a book provisionally titled "Bonneville Happy Birthday 200 mph".

First over 150 mph was Joe Wright (150.74 mph - sometimes reported as 150.65 mph - on 6 November 1930).  This was a big increase (13 mph) on the previous record.  At least three others went over 150 mph before Rollie Free was the first to do it at Bonneville.

First over 100 mph ... you could debate this over many winter evenings, but I reckon there are at least six contenders.  Different times, different rules.

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Re: September 13, 1948
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2017, 07:47:21 AM »
It was one of those barriers similar to the first 200 mph mark, 250, and 300.  We all remember who broke 300, who broke 200, 250?

First over 250 mph was Don Vesco in 1970 (FIM, AMA and SCTA records at 251.9xx mph on 17 September).

First over 200 mph was Wilhelm Herz (FIM, AMA and SCTA records at 210+ mph on 4 August 1956).  The exact speeds are hard to pin down.  Russell Wright and Johnny Allen came close, but the NSU team was the first to get there.  Herz's son, Heinz, has written an excellent article (English translation published in Fast Facts, the newsletter of the Speed Record Club) on the race to 200 mph.  He is also writing a book provisionally titled "Bonneville Happy Birthday 200 mph".

First over 150 mph was Joe Wright (150.74 mph - sometimes reported as 150.65 mph - on 6 November 1930).  This was a big increase (13 mph) on the previous record.  At least three others went over 150 mph before Rollie Free was the first to do it at Bonneville.

First over 100 mph ... you could debate this over many winter evenings, but I reckon there are at least six contenders.  Different times, different rules.

What rules/certifying bodies are being used here? Seems Sir Malcolm's 300+ in 1935 and others before that oughta be in here somewhere.
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Re: September 13, 1948
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2017, 09:20:19 AM »
What rules/certifying bodies are being used here? Seems Sir Malcolm's 300+ in 1935 and others before that oughta be in here somewhere.

Sir Malcolm Campbell wasn't on a two wheeler.
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Re: September 13, 1948
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2017, 05:33:01 PM »
Sorry, guess I get a  dope slap for that one......
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Re: September 13, 1948
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2017, 10:09:43 PM »
Any guess when the SCTA started allowing bikes to come to SpeedWeek?
I'm thinking 1954?
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