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Re: Trump'd up Help?
« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2016, 05:56:35 PM »
Mike -

I openly admit I have fallen into the category of the "Fair Weather Soldier" with respect to Bonneville.  I don't believe the type of sustained leadership necessary to pursue the cause is there, and I have some issues with the rhetorical boilerplate of the designated mouthpiece.  I do believe we had momentum a year ago, but the last 11 months, starting in Oregon and ending in the recent coup d'etat of the Republican Party, have simply taken the starch out of me.  It certainly didn't help our cause that the BLM was able to put together a promotional piece showing what appeared to be a fully functional event.

And realistically, we're in a holding pattern until the study is done.

I'm certainly not looking for a savior in Washington.  The recent election and the assentation of the former Speaker of the House to the position as "Chief Planner" - provided he has the ear of the President elect - does not bode well for environmentalists such as myself with regard to restoring the Bonneville Salt Flats International Speedway.

I've had this comic strip posted in my basement for 20 years -

http://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/1996/01/14

My memory is long on these issues, and while I fully recognize the need to mine for products that make this modern world what it is today, and the need to make America competitive in the world markets, I think we should also balance those needs against the desires of those who have traditionally used places such as Bonneville for recreation.

My fear is that we will be viewed as standing in the way of making America great again.  It's my hope that we are recognized as a component of that greatness.

Maintaining lease agreements with marginally profitable companies, utilizing third-world extraction technologies that leave the surrounding environment blighted, in order to compete in a market of  cheap, internationally traded commodities is not a strategy for greatness. 

My views are always evolving, and I know things change, but today, I am not optimistic.

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Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

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Re: Trump'd up Help?
« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2016, 08:01:00 PM »
We will not quit trying.
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Re: Trump'd up Help?
« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2016, 10:50:22 PM »
I wonder if Hillary would be a better choice?  I see rumblings of an Electoral college take over. :-D

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Re: Trump'd up Help?
« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2016, 10:58:05 PM »
  Trump is going to give us all a 35 percent reduction in our taxes LOL When that happens I will have more cash to donate to the return the salt fund. However I think this president will have everyone under him fearful of spending a dime so in my opinion all is not going to go well for this issue and most of the country's issue's. Its going to be a rough ride but hey its only for four long years. IMO   :-(
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Re: Trump'd up Help?
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2016, 11:33:58 AM »
     "I have some issues with the rhetorical boilerplate of the designated mouthpiece."

     Chris, that is a wonderfully phrased sentence. I'm in agreement. 

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Re: Trump'd up Help?
« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2016, 02:08:21 PM »
     "I have some issues with the rhetorical boilerplate of the designated mouthpiece."

     Chris, that is a wonderfully phrased sentence. I'm in agreement. 

     vic
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Re: Trump'd up Help?
« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2016, 04:18:44 PM »
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Re: Trump'd up Help?
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2016, 07:49:24 PM »
love trumps apathy...

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Re: Trump'd up Help?
« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2016, 08:48:07 AM »
I wonder if Hillary would be a better choice?  I see rumblings of an Electoral college take over. :-D

Whoa; I didn't come to this forum, or go racing, or go to work, or go fishing, or go hunting, or spend time with my grand kids, or drink beer and BBQ, or do really anything else, to listen to a bunch of political sourer grapes.

As far as I'm concerned we have had enough criminals in charge, if that is what you prefer, good for you, but you can just keep it to yourself I don't need to hear it.

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Re: Trump'd up Help?
« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2016, 09:02:23 AM »
I wonder if Hillary would be a better choice?  I see rumblings of an Electoral college take over. :-D

Whoa; I didn't come to this forum, or go racing, or go to work, or go fishing, or go hunting, or spend time with my grand kids, or drink beer and BBQ, or do really anything else, to listen to a bunch of political sourer grapes.

As far as I'm concerned we have had enough criminals in charge, if that is what you prefer, good for you, but you can just keep it to yourself I don't need to hear it.

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Re: Trump'd up Help?
« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2016, 09:14:05 AM »
I wonder if Hillary would be a better choice?  I see rumblings of an Electoral college take over. :-D

Whoa; I didn't come to this forum, or go racing, or go to work, or go fishing, or go hunting, or spend time with my grand kids, or drink beer and BBQ, or do really anything else, to listen to a bunch of political sourer grapes.

As far as I'm concerned we have had enough criminals in charge, if that is what you prefer, good for you, but you can just keep it to yourself I don't need to hear it.

Rouse


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Re: Trump'd up Help?
« Reply #41 on: November 22, 2016, 09:18:42 AM »
Wow, went right over my head, I thought Chris was referring to LSL!
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Re: Trump'd up Help?
« Reply #42 on: November 22, 2016, 10:27:51 AM »
Sid, Rouse, et al -

I agree - a lot of raw nerves in the political wasteland at the moment, but the sad truth of the matter is this -

At El Mirage, we're beholden to the BLM

At Bonneville, we're beholden to the BLM

The year we raced at El Muroc, we were beholden to the Air Force

At Loring, we're beholden to Air Force

At Maxton, I believe we were beholden to the city or county government that operated the field

At Wilmington, we were beholden to the County authorities

If we are to continue to race, we will continue to be involved in politics.

I know there are many political viewpoints held by members of these boards.  But I still believe what unites us is bigger than what divides us - particularly in this community.

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Re: Trump'd up Help?
« Reply #43 on: November 22, 2016, 12:37:51 PM »
    Did I mention earlier that this topic was about appointing a new Secretary of Interior?  Oh, yeah... it was the opening paragraph of the topic.
  We do not need Political discussions on this site unless they are involving current decision making INVOLVING OUR SPORT!  Politicians are like As*holes...they all stink...
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Re: Trump'd up Help?
« Reply #44 on: November 22, 2016, 01:47:57 PM »
That's the point I was going for. We all have to deal with politics on some level.

I think as far as Bonneville's concerned the BLM and the folks that have say in how they do their job should be the focus. Not some other petty BS .

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