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Offline rouse

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Re: Chassis Material
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2016, 09:27:44 AM »
Just my "2 cents" then I'll shut up, ERW, DOM, are fabrication process, and have nothing to do with the alloy of the tubing.

When buying, and/or selecting tubing, you select the material by  ASTM # , and then decide the fabrication technique Ie, seamless, ERW, DOM, and the finish condition such as Hot Rolled, Heat Treat, as Rolled, or Normalized.

So; ASTM#*****+ Fabrication technique+ finish condition, and your ready to place your order.

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Re: Chassis Material
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2016, 09:58:13 AM »
The nice thing about LSR is it is grass roots racing.  If you are a decent weldor, then you can build the cage that protects your life.  Most of us are  more comfortable welding mild steel than CM.  I finally built a CM axle, but not without talking to the pros about what I should do to normalize.  Fortunately the guy that builds the axles for Speedway lives in Wichita  :-D
So weld what you are comfortable with, meet or exceed the size requirements in the rule book.  Don't worry about the weight.  A light car is not necessary, a car that can withstand a lot of punishment is.

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Re: Chassis Material
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2016, 10:40:32 AM »
I think the welding thing is probably the main reason behind the mild steel recommendation in the rule book. Most of the stuff run in LSR is amatuer built in a shed & most people can lay a successful weld on that but I have seen some pretty scary welds parked at Bonneville & when I say parked I mean the weld was parked on the metal! :evil:
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Re: Chassis Material
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2016, 01:02:32 PM »
I agree with Pete on  the DoCol R, especially if you have little experience with CM. Downside is the cost.
http://www.ssab.us/globaldata/news-center/2016/01/18/08/06/racing-into-the-future-with-docol-tubing
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Re: Chassis Material
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2016, 02:06:34 PM »
Mild steel is a good choice. It is cheap, widely available, and it absorbs more energy due to its plastic deformation when stressed beyond its linear range.

4130N is commonly used in home-built aircraft construction but it is thinwall tubing and is oxy-acetylene torch welded in this application. This allows the joint to cool slowly and relieve stress.

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Re: Chassis Material
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2016, 03:15:20 PM »
Sumner, your article was a no show for me.... can you just post the link please  :cheers:

Sorry, I think I got it fixed....

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Re: Chassis Material
« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2016, 04:10:05 PM »
If your space permits, use the largest OD tubing that fits since stiffness (resistance to deformation and bending) varies roughly with the 4th power of the OD. 2" is 52% higher stiffness than 1-3/4" at the same wall thickness with only a 15% weight penalty.
The larger curve also makes gussets easier to fit tightly.