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[dwarner]

I would like to ask a question:

How many of you did research before building your car/bike?

By this I mean when you decided the class you were going to run did you check the record you would be competing against, did you look at what cars/bikes are competetive or record holders in the class? Or, did you just build your car/bike then decide that you are not competitive and went looking for an additional class to be added. Because your '34 three window Ford on '32 rails looks cool but cannot race heads up against a Studebaker or Monza do you petition the SCTA-BNI to add extra classes so that you can set a record or do you just continue to race for fun?

Do you now ask the 200 MPH Club to lower minimums so you can get a red hat?

What is Jack's saying ..."more classes, slower classes"... something like that.

thank you,

DW

[WZ JUNK]

Dan,

Hooley looked at the record book and we all talked about our objectives.  We wanted to set a record and get Hooley into the 2 club.   We choose the class and built the car to obtain those goals.  We picked a class with a soft record that would fit the kinda of car we wanted to build.  Others have been looking at the class that we ran in also.  We know of one car being built that will probably blow our record away next year.

John

[Dean Los Angeles]

Research, research, and more research.

I am building an A-G 250 motorcycle that I will run for the first time at the November El Mirage meet. I looked at all of the records for 250, as well as 125, 175, and 350 to try and determine which records were competitive. Actually I looked at every modified frame, special construction and streamliner record.

Glen L'Heureux owns the record at El Mirage and Bonneville.

Ah figgerd thet ah c'd hoof it faster.  

PS: Fuel is faster than gas by an average 6.71 mph. Partial streamlining is 18.50 mph faster than open on gas, 14.43 mph on fuel. Streamliners are 23.71 mph faster than partial streamlining on gas, 31.50 mph on fuel.

There are several gas records faster than the fuel record. Just shows nobody knows how to tip the can.

[Sumner]

Hey Dan is this kind of like:

 CNN's Jack Cafferty is standing by with "The Cafferty File"??

The "Warner files", I like it.  Good question and I can sure see why it was asked and hope you get lots of replies.

In my case, with the lakester, I did some studying, but not good enough.  Now I wish I would have started with a 'Busa motor and moved up 2 classes, but this will be a good learning experience.



In Hooley's case, no he did no homework as he has almost always had a Stude and that was the only vialble option for him.  Now that he has been really "bitten" he is scouring his mail route for something narrower and smaller.  He just got a Henry J to replace his drag car he sold and last night I did do the following butcher jobs on it with a paint program (above and below), but I think it is destine for the drags.

   

These cars are always so easy to build in your head and on paper and they always go as fast as you think they will .

Oh by the way, did I mention talking to you about maybe a class for 51 Henry J's with sbc's in them........ .

c ya,

Sum

[jimmy six]

There already is a class for '51 Henry J's and Allstates with SBC's. I found all of them very easily...Now I need to make the decision of Lectronic's or not....

[Bob Drury]

Dan, I think part of the problem is that most newby's are infatuated with holding a record and getting a "TWO" hat, rather than building and enjoying a vehicle and LEARNING how to gain both.  I always wonder how many of them realize that a large portion of veteran racers are running equipment that we know has no chance of either, but are out there for our own sense of achievement.  I guess some of us are satisfied with smaller ego's, but I think we come back time and again for the friendship and memories we have gained.  Not that I wouldn't mind a class for early Olds powered vehicles, you understand!  
                                            Bob Drury
                                             394 Olds on Nitro..............................

[Stan Back]

Sum --

Is the coefficient for traction on paper the same as on salt or dirt?

Stan

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J.D. --

Do the Lectronics make the difference between the Standard and Classic Comp. Coupes?

Stan

[Dynoroom]

Dan, yep I think I think about the class I want to run in alot. You know "soft" records and all.  

But me thinks what your really try'in to say is go the the SCTA meeting the 27th to see if anyone is proposing more "new" classes.  

[JackD]

Do most of your work at home ,
there you will have the most time and help available.
If you are just in it for a "WHIRRLED  RECORD", those might be available by mail soon.

[jimmy six]

There is no classic comp cpe: All comp cpes run together other than the vintage with vintage engines.

I was using generalities for all the other coupe classes: J.D.

[DahMurf]

Which bike?

Are you kidding I spent hours on end finding all the open classes so I could hold as many slow speed records as possible!      

As for our "serious" attempts, both our current projects are against existing and substantial records. Our team goal is more about taking what's already been done & trying our hand at doing it better. It's more about our abilities to tune & build since the actual piloting thing isn't that difficult (at least for us) at 140mph & 100mph. Although our goals are well beyond that and some day we'll get there. And when we do, we may even bring our toys to the great white salt.

... that doesn't mean we haven't been known to take a detour down a bizarre road along the way! Sometimes a run down the track is just that, a chance to run down the track! Todd's compared it to something about fat chicks & friends? Idunno  

Deb 1301
Twin Jugs Racing

PS: no special classes for us, we just keep changing parts to stay in our base class even when "they" keep changing the rules for that base class!  

[Bob Jr.]

I am about ready to make my modified a bolt together so I can run on some real records as a modified then get a bunch of soft  or no records by making it a rear engine car!!!!

[1212FBGS]

I abboloootly research every class we enter, and then research why it didnt work until it does.

[RichFox]

I looked at the record in the class that I had parts for. A '32 five window and a 270 GMC. The record was 97mph. Looked do able. It was. I never asked for a rule change at the time, but I got plenty of them. The Vega has held the record in three classes without having to run again after the first class record. I do think the X and XX classes should have a separate 260 inch class break for guys like the Salt To Salt and Salt Windsor cars.

[russ jensen]

I looked @ classes a lot, have grandads 23 oakland roadster{whats left of it} nothing ahead of firewall so stuck in modified roadster// look @ records a lot  and looks like need to downsize engine to get into class where  my pension {shades of burt} and my yearly corn harvest will provide tires.