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Offline Captthundarr

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Re: 1982/1992 Camaro/Firebird Front & Rear Suspension
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2016, 05:38:06 PM »
Since we don't run on salt we "currently" got no bumps. I believe I found our set up on here somewhere. It works for the wife as she would, without hesitation, inform me of ANY issues. Straight axle sounds intriguing. I happen to have one laying about. mmmmmm :-D
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Re: 1982/1992 Camaro/Firebird Front & Rear Suspension
« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2016, 05:48:27 PM »
Since we don't run on salt we "currently" got no bumps. I believe I found our set up on here somewhere. It works for the wife as she would, without hesitation, inform me of ANY issues. Straight axle sounds intriguing. I happen to have one laying about. mmmmmm :-D

I thought the straight axle is for the Spitfire!  :-D

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Re: 1982/1992 Camaro/Firebird Front & Rear Suspension
« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2016, 06:10:16 PM »
Gregg, Choices, choices
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Re: 1982/1992 Camaro/Firebird Front & Rear Suspension
« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2016, 06:37:07 PM »
Hi Neil, Been awhile, hope you are well. There is compliance in the stock parts. As I don't drive the car I can only rely on what Amy tells me and that is that it " takes nothing to keep it straight and ride like on the highway". In car video confirms that she holds it straight that's all. Me and my front end guy did a little experiment with the car on the rack. We hung about 220 lbs. (my fat azz) from the front end and watched the readout. Toe went almost to zero. Who'd thunk it....

Thanks- it has been a while. Joline and I were in Normandy visiting the D-Day (in French "Jour J") beaches.

It does, indeed sound like bump steer. Although you aren't going around corners (unless you start to spin  :-) ) the aerodynamic loading on the front suspension will change your toe-in depending on speed- not good.

You may have downforce or lift on the front; I'm not familiar with Camaro characteristics. In any case, until the bump steer corrects the toe-in back to zero, you are scrubbing off speed.

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Re: 1982/1992 Camaro/Firebird Front & Rear Suspension
« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2016, 07:46:42 PM »
Experience with lowered Firebird and stock steering--initial trials were “scary” per experienced alcohol funny car driver and others.  Geometrical analysis of the front end indicated bump toe-out and this was confirmed by in-shop testing.  Re-locating some of the components was able to minimize bump steer and result in good steering behavior.

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Re: 1982/1992 Camaro/Firebird Front & Rear Suspension
« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2016, 10:06:47 PM »
Thanks for posting Neil.

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Re: 1982/1992 Camaro/Firebird Front & Rear Suspension
« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2016, 03:19:07 PM »
Here's a car with what a few would say are no-no's.  No front air dam.  No big rear spoiler/wing.  Solid axle front end.  Solid mounted 9".  Absolutely stock Monza Spyder body.

The problem is that since 1992 it's held the Bonneville and El Mirage C/CFALT records at 243 and 213.  Makes you wonder if there is a good set of parameters to use.
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