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Offline RansomT

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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2016, 06:40:05 PM »
We have an old SAC base in NE Arkansas too.  It is 11602' long and in good condition.  They do some SCTA racing there and the Chamber of Commerce might appreciate our business too.  Keith from ECTA said there are often FAA issues, but it doesn't hurt to keep asking.  It would be a like closer to home for me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas_International_Airport

Aren't they doing the Arkansas Mile there in early June?

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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2016, 07:32:17 PM »
  Maine  is a Sac Runway......You get to race on  the runways used by  Nuclear armed B-52's  :-D

Yeah -- planes that had Stainless and Johnboy as repair guys working on 'em.  Wathc for gouges from where parts fell off? :roll:
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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2016, 09:09:55 PM »
Slim,
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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2016, 10:52:11 PM »
Ransom, yes that is where they are running the Arkansas Mile.
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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2016, 07:44:04 AM »
Johnboy, I'll let pride in your duty take way precedence over my smart-acura remarks -- even though I still think it was appros-pos.

Thanks for your work way back then. :cheers: :cheers:
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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2016, 09:19:14 AM »
Hey SSS, most of my flying was to deem the aircraft safe enough for others to fly after I worked on it  :? .... but if it makes you feel better I was sitting in the IP seat and let a buzzard fly into an engine less than a quarter mile off the end, took out the paired engine, the mayhem that ensued left engine and pod pieces scattered about... no marks on the runway... but one of the guys might of had a racing stripe  :-o he unstowed his trigger ring when the pilot said we had fire
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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2016, 10:14:21 AM »
Hey SSS, most of my flying was to deem the aircraft safe enough for others to fly after I worked on it 
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Hey -- good idea.  Kinda like making the butcher eat the first piece of sausage made after cleaning the stuffing machine? :-D
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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2016, 10:22:18 AM »
If Arkansas is anything like Loring ME you won't be disappointed.

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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2016, 04:42:38 PM »
If Arkansas is anything like Loring ME you won't be disappointed.
Same SAC runway layout. It is just warmer in Arkansas :-D
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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2016, 05:12:26 PM »
BBurner said:   "...If Arkansas is anything like Loring ME you won't be disappointed."

Well, don't the antlers on the moose grow counter-clockwise in Arkansas??    That'd be weird to see.
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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2016, 06:53:48 PM »
Thanks for the clarification on Arkansas, see I was right about it being a good idea.  The best thing is that it is only a four hour drive from home.  This sounds like a great test and tune opportunity.

As far as weather goes, it was fairly warm in Maine last fall, we stayed a few days extra and temps were in the low 90's.
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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2016, 10:21:31 AM »
Okay, please don't take this as dumping on any organization but I find the entry prices a little more than on the high side. The Arkansas meet is within 225 miles from me so it is a viable option but the 2 and 3 day costs are up there. I cannot find records so I don't think there is a certification process as with the SCTA. I've been around LSR since 1979 and know the costs involved to build and compete, in my mind I see what a week at Bonneville cost which I feel is extremely fair and now the 3 day meet at Ohio (wish they would certify) and that is what prompted me to talk out loud.

With the increasing options of race venues I hope Dan Warners' proprosal to get a nationwide 1 mile record data base gets some traction and is revisited.

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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2016, 06:20:10 PM »
Slim I think the black bears are about the same though.

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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2016, 03:35:03 PM »
Okay, please don't take this as dumping on any organization but I find the entry prices a little more than on the high side. The Arkansas meet is within 225 miles from me so it is a viable option but the 2 and 3 day costs are up there. I cannot find records so I don't think there is a certification process as with the SCTA. I've been around LSR since 1979 and know the costs involved to build and compete, in my mind I see what a week at Bonneville cost which I feel is extremely fair and now the 3 day meet at Ohio (wish they would certify) and that is what prompted me to talk out loud.

With the increasing options of race venues I hope Dan Warners' proprosal to get a nationwide 1 mile record data base gets some traction and is revisited.  

 Ohio or Maine is 300 bucks entry fee and the cost of two nights in a motel might be another 200-300 bucks... What is the entry fees at Bonneville ?

 Yes, the paved tracks are not the salt and all the mystic but they do allow racing for those of us on the east side who don't have the time and money to make a nearly cross country trip.
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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2016, 03:16:21 PM »
Unless a knowledge group of people actually go and see the conditions we will always be in a guessing mode. Also cleaning gypsum off your car can't be any worse than cleaning salt off your car.

So who lives in NM near WS?  I'll chip in $20 towards gas for an exploratory trip.
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