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Offline Stan Back

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New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« on: March 03, 2016, 06:02:41 PM »
Pat Ganahl sent me this 1947 proposal for an alternative to hauling your Hop-Up to Muroc.  Sounds like a good idea.  Hope you can read the pdf -- it's the best I can do.

Maybe a monthly two-day meet on the 405?
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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2016, 07:35:26 PM »
...  Hope you can read the pdf ....

Not sure if this is better or not,

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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2016, 07:49:55 PM »
Scanners weren't hi-res back then.

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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2016, 10:19:05 PM »
   Wow another opportunity missed     :roll:
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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2016, 10:34:00 PM »
Stan, perhaps we could use the driveway to the luxurious "Back Estate". I'm sad to report that the runway of "Salina International Airport" is a bit short.  :-P Wayno

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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2016, 12:32:32 AM »
There are plenty of places on I5, chased down a few Bimmers in the Miserati before growing up.
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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2016, 01:54:17 PM »
On a more serious note, what about the space shuttle landing site at white sands?  With the shuttle program shelved, what else are they using that area for?  I'm sure the problems would be the same as were encountered at Edwards post-9/11 but that's a lot of flat open space not so far from where we're already used to going.  Say they let us use it... maybe we just go onto the area from the other side that doesn't mean driving onto the base through "sensitive" areas.  Meh.   
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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2016, 02:46:09 PM »
Freud's summary of Mike Akatiff's discussion at the Bonneville NW Reunion last month:

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White Sands, New Mexico has around 7 miles of gypsum runway that could be used, B U T, as always

there is a but involved. It has had no maintenance for a long time. It's not long enough for

400+ MPH records and who wants to clean the car after running on wet gypsum. It is available.

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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2016, 05:14:05 PM »
Unless a knowledge group of people actually go and see the conditions we will always be in a guessing mode. Also cleaning gypsum off your car can't be any worse than cleaning salt off your car.

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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2016, 09:14:48 PM »
We rode across gypsum playas in desert races.  It is not a surface to be on when wet.  It can be slippery.  In the dry it is nice and hard with a fine dust.  White boogers is my most notable memory. 

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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2016, 01:25:16 AM »
Quick glance at White Sands info:
Longest "runway" was about 3 miles, with 2 mile "runoff" length at each end. The "soft gypsum top layer, 1/2" - 1" thick, required constant grading, repair, and maintenance".
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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2016, 12:39:17 PM »
Back east we race on abandoned airport runways... Ohio is one mile......Maine is a 1-1/2 mile with enough shutdown for 300 mph.....There must be more out west beside the Mojave mile?
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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2016, 04:10:30 PM »
  Maine  is a Sac Runway......You get to race on  the runways used by  Nuclear armed B-52's  :-D
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Re: New(?) Idea for Alternative Race Sites
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2016, 04:32:21 PM »
We have an old SAC base in NE Arkansas too.  It is 11602' long and in good condition.  They do some SCTA racing there and the Chamber of Commerce might appreciate our business too.  Keith from ECTA said there are often FAA issues, but it doesn't hurt to keep asking.  It would be a like closer to home for me.

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