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Re: G/F class lakester in Wichita, Kansas
« Reply #45 on: February 27, 2016, 12:14:35 AM »
While BUB may appear slab sided there is subtle curvature and shaping designed to improve the pressure gradients within the design limits imposed by safety considerations, packaging and the rule book!...

A few pictures of BUB...








.... maybe about the lowest Cd numbers of anything that has run on the salt. Slab sided at the very back.  Sam's...



...liner is there also and probably wins on frontal area (just as important).

More on them and Ack Attack (the one that got it done with the record) here, but is from the 2006 Bub Meet...

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/b-ville%20meets/2006%20BUB-index.html

I think it would be unfair to leave Max's streamliners...



...out of the group above.  He hasn't had the engine sucesses the others have had but his body shapes and especially his frontal area figures are right up there.  Also notice I said "streamliners".  He has built a number of them...

http://www.vincentstreamliner.com/BlackLightning/2003-2004/

John great build and the best to you and the car on the salt,

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Re: G/F class lakester in Wichita, Kansas
« Reply #46 on: February 27, 2016, 10:03:21 AM »
Sumner, wrong BUB and yes there is a story! Our BUB is my avatar! Short story version: When I got involved with that liner there was no project name. Every project deserves a name even if it is irreverent!
One of the sponsors was Bottoms Up Furniture company and everyone liked Betty Boop so I coined BUB - Bottoms Up Betty. And yes I knew the original BUB story so ours is the family version. In 2009 I did a project presentation at a SolidWorks World and noticed that the original BUB was there so I swapped voice mails with Denis for a few weeks before we connected. I asked him why he did not remember me since we had met in 1970 when he ran his first "BUB". We had a good laugh about it all! LSR people are the best!  :cheers:

Denis's BUB is shaped liked a salmon so he likes to say he has a very low Coho-efficient of drag!  :-D
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Re: G/F class lakester in Wichita, Kansas
« Reply #47 on: February 27, 2016, 10:56:18 AM »
I wanted to ask about the inboard lower control arms.
Aren't they going to bind under load?.
The rod end looks very close to the bulkhead.

Great build despite my question. :cheers: :cheers:

Good eyes, Tauruck. Those inboard lower links actually attach above where you see them on my car. The transmission must be in the car, then another piece is bolted to it and captures the rod end. This will allow the link to move freely in bump without binding. Here is a picture of a car with the same suspension.

John

 

Thanks John. Now I get it. :cheers:

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Re: G/F class lakester in Wichita, Kansas
« Reply #48 on: February 27, 2016, 08:06:00 PM »
Sumner, wrong BUB and yes there is a story! ....

Sorry about that..... :-P :cry: :cry:,

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Re: G/F class lakester in Wichita, Kansas
« Reply #49 on: February 28, 2016, 09:05:56 PM »
A little more progress. Forecast is for warm weather this week and the time I expect an engine to arrive. The car is now ready for it so good timing. Since Bonneville is questionable for racing right now, I am setting up for a mile track. So, the five speed Hewland gave way to a four speed unit. I hope there are enough gears.

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Re: G/F class lakester in Wichita, Kansas
« Reply #50 on: February 29, 2016, 12:33:51 AM »
Nice setup John.
Is that a Hewland gearbox? :cheers:

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Re: G/F class lakester in Wichita, Kansas
« Reply #51 on: February 29, 2016, 07:54:26 AM »
Nice setup John.
Is that a Hewland gearbox? :cheers:

Yes. It is a Hewland Mk9.

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Re: G/F class lakester in Wichita, Kansas
« Reply #52 on: February 29, 2016, 09:45:31 AM »
zIt looks like your about the same distance from Wilmington as we are 800 miles +-.

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Re: G/F class lakester in Wichita, Kansas
« Reply #53 on: March 02, 2016, 10:18:39 PM »
John Stowe and Ted Wenz sure build a beautiful engine even without the exhaust or FI stuff attached. Fits like a glove in my chassis too. What's not to love?

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Re: G/F class lakester in Wichita, Kansas
« Reply #54 on: March 02, 2016, 10:26:58 PM »
All of it looks great.
Beautiful motor.
More pics please?.
Thanks. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

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Re: G/F class lakester in Wichita, Kansas
« Reply #55 on: March 03, 2016, 05:07:32 AM »
Any dyno tq/bhp numbers you are willing to share?

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Re: G/F class lakester in Wichita, Kansas
« Reply #56 on: March 03, 2016, 07:59:01 AM »
Any dyno tq/bhp numbers you are willing to share?

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I'll see what I can get, Fordboy. I will need those data to gear up properly so when it becomes available, I will post it.

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Re: G/F class lakester in Wichita, Kansas
« Reply #57 on: March 03, 2016, 10:23:38 AM »
What happened to the Burton Brown "special" from page one?
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Re: G/F class lakester in Wichita, Kansas
« Reply #58 on: March 03, 2016, 10:51:08 AM »
What happened to the Burton Brown "special" from page one?

Jack, the Burton streamliner is still a viable race car but will be using a different transmission going forward. Burton tells me he still plans on using an upgraded Stowe 2.0L engine (more hp) but will decide that at a later date. For now, the transaxle  and engine are going in my lakester.

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Re: G/F class lakester in Wichita, Kansas
« Reply #59 on: March 03, 2016, 10:58:26 AM »
Any dyno tq/bhp numbers you are willing to share?

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OK, here are the numbers (see attachment). What doesn't show on the dyno sheet are power figures from 7,000 to 8,500 rpm. At 7,000 there is 250 hp, 7,100 272 hp, 7,500 285 hp with 194.6 foot pounds, 8,000 290 hp and 8,500 310 hp. The attached dyno sheet takes it the rest of the way. There is approximately another ten horses left in tuning and another 35 hp with larger valves and bigger cams. Cams in the engine now are considered street cams.

John