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Streamliner rudders?
« on: October 14, 2014, 01:04:22 AM »
I've noticed some streamliners have movable surfaces in the vertical fins like an airplane's rudder.  Some just have fixed vertical fins.  For those that have movable surfaces within the vertical stabilizers, are the "rudders" tied to the steering wheel, or are they adjusted like the trim tabs on an airplane?  Are they adjusted "on the fly" during a run, or pre-set?

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Re: Streamliner rudders?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2014, 10:17:05 PM »
Tom, got any pictures of said parts?  I have not seen any
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Re: Streamliner rudders?
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2014, 11:19:01 AM »
I don't recall any streamliners with adjustable vertical rudders, a couple have Horizontal  and a  few have experimented with canards for more frontal down force.
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Re: Streamliner rudders?
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2014, 12:23:14 PM »
Perhaps you've seen a side view of a clamshell-like opening to assist in air braking and parachute release? 
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Re: Streamliner rudders?
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2014, 12:34:21 PM »
Well, I can't figure out how to post an image, so here's a link:

http://www.landspeedproductions.biz/wp-content/uploads/Speedweek-2010-Press-Pass-V21.jpg

This is the first one I noticed, but since then, I've seen others.  I guess I'll just ask Ron if I see him on Sunday.

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Re: Streamliner rudders?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2014, 02:44:48 PM »
My guess is that is sending data and if it is retained in the new design I'll bet it could be used to automatically trigger parachutes... Something we have been considering for a long time, to take that half second delay out of the process.
Be sure to let us know Ron's answer
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Re: Streamliner rudders?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2014, 04:47:18 PM »


I'm probably not remembering right  :cry: but I thought in one of the interviews in BRN that the vertical tab was put there just in case the body influenced the car to go one way or the other but that it hadn't and the vertical was never moved from dead center??????

I'll also await Ron's answer  :-),

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Re: Streamliner rudders?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2014, 07:34:44 PM »
I've seen that car up close many, many times, and although I never looked specifically to see if the "rudder" was steerable in any way -- I sure don't remember seeing any kind of a hinge or other device to allow it to move.  Prove me wrong -- I won't be hurt. :evil:
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Re: Streamliner rudders?
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2014, 07:39:45 PM »
No proof of anything, just a picture........
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Re: Streamliner rudders?
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2014, 07:57:21 PM »
Well, by gum -- I guess there is something there.  I stand (or sit)  corrected.  Evidently I just never paid attention to it.
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Re: Streamliner rudders?
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2014, 08:00:47 PM »
Sum, your correct...the trim tab is mentioned in the Ron Main interview..he said it was installed just in case but never needed.

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Re: Streamliner rudders?
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2014, 01:04:08 AM »
OK, that is one vehicle. How about all the others the OP inferred?

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Re: Streamliner rudders?
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2014, 05:37:22 AM »
The new Mariani streamliner appears to have a trim tab on it's vertical stabilizer.