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Offline Rocket123

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Fire Bottle Certification
« on: August 18, 2014, 06:24:17 PM »
I took my fire bottles to Fire Safety of Denver to be certified they certified them last time. They told me they were to old and would need to be emptied, pressure tested and re-filled. One is a cold fire that is 10 years old, the other Halon 1301 that is older. They had them a month and then said they couldn't find a nozzle so they could not do what they had said. Just wondering what my options are the bottles have never been used and I don't want to buy new ones if I don't have to. If anyone knows any viable options they would be appreciated.

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Re: Fire Bottle Certification
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2014, 06:44:59 PM »
Yeah, they won't recertify a bottle that old.

Contact Roy Creel as to SCTA's stance on this.

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Re: Fire Bottle Certification
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2014, 10:01:20 PM »
Max to be certified is 6 years. I get calls all the time from people who buy used firebottles on eBay only to find out they are 5 1/2 years old and cannot be recertified. It is an SFI requirement not the fire suppression company's requirement. 

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Re: Fire Bottle Certification
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2014, 08:02:08 AM »
Will order new ones. Any Idea how to dispose of these?

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Re: Fire Bottle Certification
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2014, 08:51:06 AM »
They would make good shop extinguishers....

Or you can give them to us...   :-D
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Re: Fire Bottle Certification
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2014, 09:13:50 AM »
They're kind of handy if you're putting together a new chassis and you need to figure out how things need to fit together.

They could also make for a nice coolant overflow can, or if you've got good welding skills, could be made into a fuel cool can or an oil collector for a dry sump.

They're a lot tougher than their limited certifiable life would indicate.

It's likely that if you simply want them emptied in an environmentally responsible manner, the certification company might oblige.

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Re: Fire Bottle Certification
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2014, 12:25:25 PM »
Stainless knows what to do with them. :-D :-D

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Re: Fire Bottle Certification
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2014, 01:15:36 PM »
Hydro testing requirements for pressure containers:

 Stored pressure extinguishers such as dry chemical ABCs need retesting every 12 years. Gas cylinders and pressurized water extinguishers are retested every five years. The original manufacture date often is stamped into the cylinder or listed on the identification label. The DOT police can issue a citation and/or fine for going through a tunnel or over a bridge with out of date bottles...I do know someone fined but that was the least of his problems, it was just one more citation on an incredible list of stupid stuff he earned.
Racers should send there bottles back every 3 or 4 years at least to have them inspected to make sure they work.
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Re: Fire Bottle Certification
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2014, 09:55:52 PM »
"In accordance with Section 21.305(d) of the FAR, the FAA accepts handheld extinguishers approved by Underwriters Laboratories..." Also, in accordance with Section 25.851 (601(b1) "An approved type fire extinguisher includes those approved by the Underwriter's Laboratories, Inc., Factory Mutual, Underwriter's Laboratories of Canada..."

"Non-refillable disposable fire extinguishers (1211-1301) are exempt from the periodic hydrostatic test requirements."


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