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Re: Bonneville weather
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2014, 03:57:11 PM »
Something Doc and I discussed regarding Gairdner was the tides and the effect the moon has on large bodies of standing water.  Both Gairdner and Bonneville are floating on water and silt.

A Gairdner local pointed out to Doc that on the perimeter of Gairdner, one can see high water marks as the water lifts and drops the salt.

On August 10th, the full moon was the closest it would be to the earth all year in the Northern Hemisphere.  I'm thinking the extra water being worked upon by the gravitational pull of the moon may well have had the effect of moving and cracking the salt surface, causing the pot holes, and bringing the silt to the surface.

Just throwing it out there.  I understand the DLRA now avoids booking their event during periods of a full moon.
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Re: Bonneville weather
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2014, 04:03:21 PM »
I haven't yet heard anything from Gary Wilkinson and Jim Burkdoll - who are at the salt today for their on-hand in person inspection and forecast of what's going to be doable.  I'll be ready for them to contact me to give me the story for all of you.  See?  I've learned to wait and listen. :-)

Late edit:  I just saw Monte's post about the Gary and Jim expedition.  It's on the "World of Speed" topic.  Go take a read.  It looks like it'll be possible to run, if not on all four SCTA courses - at least the two that USFRA uses. :cheers: :cheers:
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Re: Bonneville weather
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2014, 06:34:43 PM »
Something Doc and I discussed regarding Gairdner was the tides and the effect the moon has on large bodies of standing water.  Both Gairdner and Bonneville are floating on water and silt.

A Gairdner local pointed out to Doc that on the perimeter of Gairdner, one can see high water marks as the water lifts and drops the salt.

On August 10th, the full moon was the closest it would be to the earth all year in the Northern Hemisphere.  I'm thinking the extra water being worked upon by the gravitational pull of the moon may well have had the effect of moving and cracking the salt surface, causing the pot holes, and bringing the silt to the surface.

Just throwing it out there.  I understand the DLRA now avoids booking their event during periods of a full moon.

I know that there has been a lot of discussion on this with DLRA and they might base meet dates on the moon but I just can't believe the water that was on the salt was sufficient to be effected by the moon.  Most 'experts' don't even think that there are tides in the Great Lakes but...

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However, there is some disagreement on the subject. According to the Canadian Hydrologic/Hydrographic Service, the Great Lakes experience tides from 1 to 4 cm, the strongest being on Lakes Superior and Erie. ( http://www.great-lakes.net/teach/chat/answers/100100_tides.html )

So even if the largest of the Great Lakes can have a maximum tide of 4 cm (1.6 inches) then I'd think the small amount of water on the salt couldn't have a measurable tide at all.  Now wind is a very different animal and come into play there all the time like it does in areas that also experience tides,

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Re: Bonneville weather
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2014, 10:23:15 AM »
Any new reports on weather and salt conditions?

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Re: Bonneville weather
« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2014, 10:30:48 AM »
Current forecast calls for 20%-30% chance of showers through Saturday.
Too early in the day to say much about today's chances.
Last I heard they had 8 miles on the international course dry enough for runs and USFRA figured they would have good courses 2 and 3 to run WOS.
I have not seen any recent updates though.

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Re: Bonneville weather
« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2014, 01:23:27 PM »
Current forecast calls for 20%-30% chance of showers through Saturday.
Too early in the day to say much about today's chances.
Last I heard they had 8 miles on the international course dry enough for runs and USFRA figured they would have good courses 2 and 3 to run WOS.
I have not seen any recent updates though.

That means there is a 70-80% chance it won't rain!!!!!!!!  :-D

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Re: Bonneville weather
« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2014, 05:30:36 PM »
The latest Wendover forecast calls for 20% on Friday and 40% on Saturday.  Next week looks nice and dry though.
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Re: Bonneville weather
« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2014, 07:25:02 PM »
Looks like the salt flats and mountains to the West are getting hit with rain at 4:15 PST.

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Re: Bonneville weather
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2014, 12:52:30 AM »
Heavy T-storms all along the Wasatch tonight.  Inch/hour here right now.

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Re: Bonneville weather
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2014, 08:40:09 AM »
Has anybody else taken a look at Wendover weather this morning?  The radar shows what looks one heck of a lot like rain over the race track area.  Maybe your radar shows something a little more favorable. :?
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Re: Bonneville weather
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2014, 08:53:09 AM »
Has anybody else taken a look at Wendover weather this morning?  The radar shows what looks one heck of a lot like rain over the race track area.  Maybe your radar shows something a little more favorable. :?

Afraid not, :cry:

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Re: Bonneville weather
« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2014, 09:08:20 AM »
The Utah DOT camera at mileage marker 11.8 ( I80 Liveview WB @ Milepost 11.8 TE ) shows clouds over the salt and water on the camera, but currently, a beautiful sunrise.

http://udottraffic.utah.gov/

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Re: Bonneville weather
« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2014, 10:08:31 AM »
I was just looking at the radar over the track.  It sure looked like it was raining.  Better now than later I guess.

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Re: Bonneville weather
« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2014, 11:15:27 AM »
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Re: Bonneville weather
« Reply #44 on: August 21, 2014, 11:56:46 AM »
One hour storm total radar is currently showing a "trace" of rainfall over the track area. Lots of clouds on radar does not necessarily translate to rain.
A trace is less than 0.1 inch. ie just a very light occasional sprinkle or intermittent spitting not a steady rainfall.

So far so good hope it clears. Forecast calls for 40% chance of rain this afternoon, so only time will tell how things shake out.