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Offline edinlr

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Re: Course markers
« Reply #90 on: August 03, 2014, 02:09:48 AM »
It is hard to keep asking for donations for improvements for flags, markers, balloons, etc.  If the board decides on improvements that are not in the budget, then just add it to the entry fee.  I am all for creature comforts and safety.  As for marking the end of each course why not something universal like checkered flags, or something we will all instinctively remember.
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Re: Course markers
« Reply #91 on: August 04, 2014, 04:33:35 PM »
It is hard to keep asking for donations for improvements for flags, markers, balloons, etc.  If the board decides on improvements that are not in the budget, then just add it to the entry fee.  I am all for creature comforts and safety.  As for marking the end of each course why not something universal like checkered flags, or something we will all instinctively remember.

The problem is the 5 mile is not the only end of the course. lots of people shut down at the 3, many more at the 4. As soon as a checkered flag is put at the 5 then everyone will go all the way to the 5 before shutting down, regardless of how fast (slow) they are doing.

The mile markers are really, really visible as is. But if people are looking at their tach, or looking down in the cockpit, or texting, whatever, rather than looking where they are going then they will miss them and nothing anybody can do will change that.   

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Re: Course markers
« Reply #92 on: August 04, 2014, 10:36:08 PM »
I wasn't referring to the people who don't use the whole 5 miles when I made the initial reference to a different color banner at the 5 mile. The 5 mile on the long tracks (during Speed Week) is THE END of the course! You can shut it off wherever, but if you see another color BESIDES ORANGE (green, blue, pink, yellow, etc.) it's over and done so throw out the laundry! The people who click it at the 3 or 4 aren't going to the end anyways, regardless of what's down there. My thinking was for the guys who are really hauling the mail and mile markers are going by in mere seconds.

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Re: Course markers
« Reply #93 on: August 05, 2014, 10:10:57 AM »
Or just save all the headaches and set it up like this at the 5!

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Re: Course markers
« Reply #94 on: August 05, 2014, 10:12:56 AM »
GREAT IDEA!!!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Re: Course markers
« Reply #95 on: August 05, 2014, 10:14:13 AM »
There's an accident waiting to happen.  :-o
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Re: Course markers
« Reply #96 on: August 05, 2014, 10:15:05 AM »
Need one of those on each side of the course. Keep in mind that the best part is right in the middle.

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Re: Course markers
« Reply #97 on: August 05, 2014, 07:56:42 PM »
"Keep in mind that the best part is right in the middle."

Not necessarly. If there is a line down the center of the

course too many people run right over it. That's where

the ruts grow. That was one of the stated reasons for not

having a center line.

If your statement was an attempt at ribald humor it may not

be true if she was on her side.

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Re: Course markers
« Reply #98 on: August 05, 2014, 08:03:32 PM »
Don't be promoting those Oriental books that show different mounting positions.
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Re: Course markers
« Reply #99 on: August 06, 2014, 09:27:02 AM »
"Keep in mind that the best part is right in the middle."


If your statement was an attempt at ribald humor it may not

be true if she was on her side.

FREUD

I would never act in an ribaldish manner. However, that may have been first thought at the sight of that ring Girl.

Besides, a little ribald may go a long way, so to speak.

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« Reply #100 on: August 19, 2014, 07:57:45 PM »
Remember the discussion about the new foam course markers?  It took me a while to find it here, too.  Today Ron Main sent me his story of the new markers.  I'll post it here with minor edits of punctuation and spelling.  The photos were in the email from Ron, too.  This should give you some more information about the markers and how they were developed.


1/4 mile Course Markers
History

When I learned that the BNI had decided to eliminate all ¼ mile black bag markers, because of the PVC pipe danger,
I went to the July 18 board-reps meeting.
Scott Andrews had developed a new foam marker with no PVC pipe above ground level.
I felt that until the new course lines were proven to be visibly safe (last year’s lines were almost invisible) we still needed ¼ miles makers until the new added lines proved to be safe.
 
At the July 18 board-reps meeting The Board voted to allow me to provide the foam ¼ mile markers; provided that there would be no cost to SCTA-BNI and that also I would provide, install and maintain them.
The next day I told Scott to order all the material and that I would raise the money with donations to pay all the costs.
 
HI mean to have Scott bill SCTA-BNI all of his costs for the material of ¼ mile markers. He has also has received some of the material costs all ready, but he should bill the SCTA for additional costs that he has encored.
I will send all my donations that I received to you and the SCTA and I will pay for any additional costs for the course markers.
Any money that is left over will go to the course prep fund.
Also all the donors want these markers to be available to SCTA-BNI-USFR-BUD-FIA or anyone to use for Safety on the Bonneville Salts Flats.
Thanks
Ron Main
 

Here's a shot of the "old" course markers that were not to be used this year:



And here's the photo story of the new ones:

 




Steve Watt of the Speed Demon crew widening his job description:






Here's the paint booth where the foam was painted black.  The original color - gray - wasn't dark enough.




Have you ever seen a streamliner in a foam-padded trailer?



Here are a trio of shots of the markers and the salt:






 
$200.00 Bob Johnson
$1,500.00: eGarage-Ben Adams • http://www.egarage.com/ Executive Director 206.769.5228 Seattle, WA
$1,000.00 John Purk
$1,000.00 Don Bridenbach
$500.00 BILL GUZENSK
$500.00 Andrews Powder Coating, Inc. Chatsworth CA
$500.00 Ron Main Speed Demon
$500.00 George Poteet
$250.00 Dave Petrelli USAC/FIA
$250.00 Mike Cook
$100.00 Bill Smith
$100.00 Scott Beairsto Racing Alberta Canada
$100.00 Willi Boelcke Kraut Brothers Racing, Santa Barbara, CA
$100.00 Tim Cox-Phoenix, AZ
$100.00 Doug-Columbus, MT
$100.00 Sumner Paterson-Blanding UT
$100.00 Lloyd-Ellenberger, WA
$100.00 Bob-Seattle, WA.
$100.00 Dave Brant
$200.00 Brant-Speranza-McLeish Racing
I will get an updated list with donor’s info ASAP


 
I don’t think the new lines will be magic, also I believe that the courses can’t ever be marked enough. George and I have made more and faster passes than almost anyone, having watched all the in car video from runs with the black line and without I know we need the 1/4 markers from the 0 mile on. George’s comment on the black line last year is that it was useless and we have run with no lines for a decade. Without course markers if a car gets off the course he will never find his way back without course markers! R. M.
 
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Re: Course markers
« Reply #101 on: August 19, 2014, 08:29:40 PM »
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I will get an updated list with donor’s info ASAP....

Two that I don't see on the list that I received money from or that sent a check in are:

7-28-14..... $100.00  ... Ron Gibson - Omaha, NE -- Check to SCTA
7-28-14.....  $50.00   ... Mike -- 4-barrel Mike - Portland, OR -- PayPal to me

...and I'm glad this came up because I still need to get Mike's $50 to Joann  :cry:.  I'll do that tomorrow.  She should of gotten Ron's check in the mail direct,

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Re: Course markers
« Reply #102 on: August 19, 2014, 09:00:53 PM »
Sum, I thank you for reminding me that I got one or two donations here for the markers, too.  I just now took a look through the PM inbox and can't find anything about those donations, so will look through my emails, too.  And if that doesn't show them I'll check through the Paypal incoming records, and for hat matter -- if the fella that sent a donation for them reads this -- please let me know so I can get your name on the list, too.  I apologise for not having got it on there right away.
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Re: Course markers
« Reply #103 on: August 20, 2014, 10:54:24 AM »
 Ellenberger, Wa ?  Lol. That's Ellensburg.  Just funning ya.
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