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Offline jww36

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #1200 on: August 30, 2016, 01:05:13 PM »
When will the time come when somebody steps up and gets a restraining order against the BLM to dis-continue all mining until a third party does a diligent job regarding salt depletion, which could take some time?

I'm no tree hugger, but I know one thing. If the BLM was allowing loggers to cut down old growth redwoods, they would have their asses in court as fast as Danny's streamliner.

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #1201 on: August 30, 2016, 04:12:07 PM »
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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #1202 on: August 30, 2016, 05:13:28 PM »
I think that the mining company is operating within what their contract allows. The problem is that BLM allowed that contract to be written in such a way that it virtually guaranteed the depletion of the salt crust. The culprit is the BLM- call it malfeasance or ignorance or incompetence. ...or even corruption.

With the infamous Roxanne Tea "we may not allow you to run if you keep criticizing us" still employed by the BLM, it demonstrates that their bureaucracy tolerates that kind of threatening behavior toward the public.

Any place I ever worked would have shown Roxanne the door as soon as they were aware of her threats.

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« Reply #1203 on: August 30, 2016, 05:48:49 PM »

Just saw this posted on BangShift. Fast forward this 1995 video to 5:50 to hear Steve Evans talk about Save the Salt suing Riley Industries and the BLM over the loss of salt. From the video, the U.S. Geological Service said 1.5 million tons of salt were being depleted annually.
Wonder what ever happened with the suit? Oh, let me guess!  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:

http://bangshift.com/bangshift1320/watch-wayne-baileys-incredible-top-fuel-save-from-the-1995-us-nationals-stuck-throttle/

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1.5 million tons X 21 years = 31.5 million tons of depleted salt and minerals!
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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #1204 on: August 30, 2016, 07:54:41 PM »
Bulk deicing salt weighs about 80 lbs. per cubic foot translating to 2,160 lbs. per cubic yard or roughly 1 ton.  At a cubic yard a ton that is a lot of salt ...

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #1205 on: August 30, 2016, 08:15:58 PM »
Bye Bye Roxanne!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #1206 on: August 30, 2016, 09:14:14 PM »
I think you could do a core sample with a teaspoon.
Wouldn't salt replenishment affect the ground water?

At 1:08, did she say "Bonneville Salt crap"?

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #1207 on: August 30, 2016, 09:31:21 PM »
Roxanne is NOT our enemy. There are some who include themselves in the community who are a determent to the cause.

Say goodbye to Roxanne if you will, but wish her good luck in her new assignment.

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #1208 on: August 31, 2016, 02:17:48 PM »
With the infamous Roxanne Tea "we may not allow you to run if you keep criticizing us" still employed by the BLM, it demonstrates that their bureaucracy tolerates that kind of threatening behavior toward the public.

I believe at the end of the BLM "threat" debacle that we discovered that she was simply conveying the sense and feeling around the BLM office and not directly behind the threat itself.  Perhaps you missed that part but now that you know, you guys that keep targeting her need to stop.  It's entirely uncalled for.
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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #1209 on: August 31, 2016, 02:36:46 PM »
With the infamous Roxanne Tea "we may not allow you to run if you keep criticizing us" still employed by the BLM, it demonstrates that their bureaucracy tolerates that kind of threatening behavior toward the public.

I believe at the end of the BLM "threat" debacle that we discovered that she was simply conveying the sense and feeling around the BLM office and not directly behind the threat itself.  Perhaps you missed that part but now that you know, you guys that keep targeting her need to stop.  It's entirely uncalled for.

Nathan;

Uncalled for? She was the one who said it; the fact that it represents the BLM office feeling only makes the situation worse! No offense intended toward you- this BLM threat situation is how tyranny begins.

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #1210 on: August 31, 2016, 10:34:07 PM »
The statement by Roanne came from someone much higher than her pay grade. Don't shoot the messenger, look to the top.

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #1211 on: September 01, 2016, 06:45:38 PM »
Wow, you guys truely amaze me, don't you have anything better to do, hey its 5:00 pm, time for your dinner!!!
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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #1213 on: September 01, 2016, 07:29:35 PM »
Wow, you guys truely amaze me, don't you have anything better to do, hey its 5:00 pm, time for your dinner!!!

The same question could be asked of you.
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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #1214 on: September 02, 2016, 08:01:23 AM »
When will the time come when somebody steps up and gets a restraining order against the BLM to dis-continue all mining until a third party does a diligent job regarding salt depletion, which could take some time?

I'm no tree hugger, but I know one thing. If the BLM was allowing loggers to cut down old growth redwoods, they would have their asses in court as fast as Danny's streamliner.

AND, unfortunately, that is EXACTLY what it took to get the BLM to STOP allowing the logging of "old growth redwoods".    Their policies at the time defied all "common sense" and "conventional wisdom".   Go figure . . .

It took over a decade for the decision to be made in the courts, and who knows how much in legal costs.    And as far as the additional trees cut down during that decade, it will take a mere millennia for them to grow back . . . . . .

This is what "extractive industries" do, they remove public assets from OUR environment, typically with no compensation to the tax paying public, or worse yet, at government subsidized cost.    It is a great scam, the tax payer gets hit twice, and gets told by government: "Learn to like it".

I'll bet the same phrase gets used in prison . . . . . . .
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