Altered Class with Pre 82 bodies

[38flattie]

So Now I am really confused.

Rules state no turbo's, no EFI, etc with vintage engines in vintage bodies. 

So, does that rule really mean, no turbo's, no EFI  in vintage body CLASSES??? 

So you can take a 37 chevrolet coupe, with a GMC engine, in XX0 or X0 class, run electronic fuel injection and turbos and run it in BGC?  or BGCC?

Simply-YES.

[4-barrel Mike]

Thanks.

Mr. Warner, I propose that the next rulebook be reworded to the effect of:

"5.D.2.  ALTERED COUPE...This class encompasses American and foreign coupe and sedan bodies 1982 to current year, and coupes and sedan, 1949 to current year, not meeting the criteria of the Classic Category..."

"5.D.3. GAS COUPE...This class encompasses American and foreign coupe, sedan, and convertible bodies 1982 to current year, and coupes and sedan, 1949 to current year, not meeting the criteria of the Classic Category..."

Respectfully,

Mike 

[xxobuick]

WOW, ok, for years I did not know this.  

[xxobuick]

Thanks.

Mr. Warner, I propose that the next rulebook be reworded to the effect of:

"5.D.2.  ALTERED COUPE...This class encompasses American and foreign coupe and sedan bodies 1982 to current year, and coupes and sedan, 1949 to current year, not meeting the criteria of the Classic Category..."

"5.D.3. GAS COUPE...This class encompasses American and foreign coupe, sedan, and convertible bodies 1982 to current year, and coupes and sedan, 1949 to current year, not meeting the criteria of the Classic Category..."

Respectfully,

Mike 

But this states 49 to current year.  What about 30's cars?

[38flattie]

Thanks.

Mr. Warner, I propose that the next rulebook be reworded to the effect of:

"5.D.2.  ALTERED COUPE...This class encompasses American and foreign coupe and sedan bodies 1982 to current year, and coupes and sedan, 1949 to current year, not meeting the criteria of the Classic Category..."

"5.D.3. GAS COUPE...This class encompasses American and foreign coupe, sedan, and convertible bodies 1982 to current year, and coupes and sedan, 1949 to current year, not meeting the criteria of the Classic Category..."

Respectfully,

Mike  

But this states 49 to current year.  What about 30's cars?

 In "5.D.2.. it also says "Pre-1949 bodies may be chopped. 

I already went through all of this, but the best thing you can do, is send your detailed proposal of switching from Vintage to Modified, to Bobby Sykes, drylakes207@yahoo.com.

[4-barrel Mike]

Ha!

ok..."1982 to current year, and any older coupe or sedan not meeting the criteria of the Classic Category..."

Mike

[RichFox]

I ran my 12 port GMC/'32 coupe in XXO/VAlt. No turbos allowed on a vintage engine in a vintage car. My turboed stock head Vega ran in what is now XO/GAlt. As did your Jag. No X classes in the Classic category. Both cars advanced into CC with the addition of a belly pan or pointy nose on the coupe.

[xxobuick]

Ok, Rich, So a data management, ie electronic fuel injection can be ran in a vintage body, vintage engine in non vintage classes, such as 38flattie did with xxo/bfalt?  But you cant run turbos? 

Where does it specify that in the rule book?  Since the rule book states that you cannot have electronic fuel injection or turbos in vintage engines in vintage bodies?

[38flattie]

Ok, Rich, So a data management, ie electronic fuel injection can be ran in a vintage body, vintage engine in non vintage classes, such as 38flattie did with xxo/bfalt?  But you cant run turbos? 

Where does it specify that in the rule book?  Since the rule book states that you cannot have electronic fuel injection or turbos in vintage engines in vintage bodies?

No, read what Rich said again=he had a XO engine, in a 1932 coupe, and he ran Vintage.  The TURBO moved it to XO/BGALT, and the bellypan or pointy nose allowed for XO/BGCC

If it isn't allowed in Vintage-EI, Turbo, engine management, etc, the car moves to modified, because there are no XO,XXO classes in Classic.

[Stan Back]

"you cannot have electronic fuel injection or turbos in vintage engines in vintage bodies"

That pertains to running in the Vintage classes.

[xxobuick]

"you cannot have electronic fuel injection or turbos in vintage engines in vintage bodies"

That pertains to running in the Vintage classes.

" For reasons of historical authenticity, vintage engine modificationas and equipment used shal be restricted to older technology levels, so far as practical.  Accordingly, in classes XO, XF, XXF, XXO, V4 AND V4F USING VINTAGE BODIES"

So then it should read:

" For reasons of historical authenticity, vintage engine modificationas and equipment used shal be restricted to older technology levels, so far as practical.  Accordingly, in classes XO, XF, XXF, XXO, V4 AND V4F USING VINTAGE BODIES IN VINTAGE BODY CLASSES "  ?

[38flattie]

Yes, although once you get used to the rule book, it's really not that confusing.

....for the most part!

[xxobuick]

Yes, although once you get used to the rule book, it's really not that confusing.

....for the most part!

Thats kinda a bit of a problem with the rule book.  Once you been doing it for years, its simple, but to new guys like us, its a lot of question asking.  It seems with most of the rules, that with just an added couple words or sentences, can free up A LOT of confusion.  Last year I had the same issue with aluminum wheels and the lug nut question.  After a hole bunch of questions, they now added about 3 more words, and it is not confusing at all. 

[Dynoroom]

Yes, although once you get used to the rule book, it's really not that confusing.

....for the most part!

Thats kinda a bit of a problem with the rule book.  Once you been doing it for years, its simple, but to new guys like us, its a lot of question asking.  It seems with most of the rules, that with just an added couple words or sentences, can free up A LOT of confusion.  Last year I had the same issue with aluminum wheels and the lug nut question.  After a hole bunch of questions, they now added about 3 more words, and it is not confusing at all. 

The rule book is a work in progress at all times. When an issue is found corrections are discussed and changes made as required.
No perfect rule book in any organization from Formula 1 to Tractor Pullers.

[xxobuick]

Yes, although once you get used to the rule book, it's really not that confusing.

....for the most part!

Thats kinda a bit of a problem with the rule book.  Once you been doing it for years, its simple, but to new guys like us, its a lot of question asking.  It seems with most of the rules, that with just an added couple words or sentences, can free up A LOT of confusion.  Last year I had the same issue with aluminum wheels and the lug nut question.  After a hole bunch of questions, they now added about 3 more words, and it is not confusing at all. 

The rule book is a work in progress at all times. When an issue is found corrections are discussed and changes made as required.
No perfect rule book in any organization from Formula 1 to Tractor Pullers.

I understand completely and am not complaining, but rather just trying to learn.