belly tank auto cad/solid works

[hotrodderhaag]

guys,
i just purchased a 300 gal belly tank,
i want to see if a few guys can help me out. i know someone has this size tank already layed out in autocad or solid works. i want to see of you can help me out by providing that for me? i would even purchase it. i have the soft ware to use it, i have a high def cnc plasma table among many other fab tools and equipment. this would help me get started on my tank by finishing it all off on the computer before the actual build..

[DND]

Ben like I said in you new guy post look up Andy Welker, and I think he is in your area too

He has a build log here and a website on the tank

G Don

[hotrodderhaag]

He shot me down a whole back. Said he cannot give away countless hours if design work.

[johnneilson]

Look at it this way,

I doubt that your tank and my tank are the same dimensions, well, 300 gal sized.
I did a ton of pre build stuff in Acad and SW and I spent numerous hours trying to find models of motors, trans, rearends etc.
I did not find anything close enough to trust and wasted tons of time.
So, I ended up modeling what I needed, and went from there.

Here is an example of what went into the mill and a snapshot of the tank.

[kiwi belly tank]

Think like a Hot Rodder, floor space & chalk lines.
  Sid.

[hotrodderhaag]

I'm using the same tank as OLD CROW .. I've researched it some. P-38 tank?
I'm new to this so take I easy fellas .
Floor space and chalk lines do not help you lay out 15 gals of shit in a 5 gal bucket

[Stan Back]

Maybe they used crayons 70 years ago.  It's a mystery.

[Glen]

Mickey Thompson,s Challenger I was laid out in chalk on his shop floor.

[hotrodderhaag]

Maybe they used crayons 70 years ago.  It's a mystery.

70 years ago they didn't have a quarter of the scta rules making more and more things needs.


Don't worry about it guys, thanks anyways

[Sumner]

I'm using the same tank as OLD CROW .. I've researched it some. P-38 tank?
I'm new to this so take I easy fellas .
Floor space and chalk lines do not help you lay out 15 gals of Subaru in a 5 gal bucket

I pretty much share anything I know, but respect those who don't choose to go that route.  It is everyone's option.  I don't expect others to share with me, but appreciate it when they do.

If you didn't read this thread....

http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,13426.msg242730.html#msg242730

...I'd do so as it would help you.  Make a build table and start using it.  Much easier and faster than working on the floor in my opinion.  There are lots of lakester builds out there which can be of use even if they don't us the same tank that you are for the body.

Good luck and keep asking questions here and post what you are doing so others can learn from that,

Sum

[tauruck]

The learning curve is half the fun.

Go it alone and you'll still get help here from the guys.

[Sumner]

I'm building my car with an idea of what I want in my head and making it with as small a frontal area as possible and then making the body to fit.  You are kind of going about it from 180 degrees to my situation.  You have the body and the car has to fit inside it or a lengthened version of it.

If I was going that route I might make my wood build table and then make female cross-sections of the car every foot or so out of plywood.  The cross-sections would be female cross sections that the body could fit inside of.  I'd cut them in half where the tanks parting line is.  Then I would attach the bottom sections to the build table at the 1 foot intervals.  Then start making the frame and such to fit inside of them.  You could at any time put the top half of the 'female' cross-section on to check fit for anything above the parting line.

This way you could locate and support components easily and quickly off the build table between the cross-sections before welding or bolting them into place.  Hope this makes some sense,

Sum

[bearingburner]

We built a rough frame out of 2X2for our lakester build and found out a lot without cutting and welding a thing. Found out a lot more once we started cutting and welding.

[Sumner]

We built a rough frame out of 2X2for our lakester build and found out a lot without cutting and welding a thing. Found out a lot more once we started cutting and welding.

Exactly  ,.....



http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar/construction%20page-37.html

... wood is cheaper than steel to make mistakes with 

Sum

[kiwi belly tank]

I'm using the same tank as OLD CROW .. I've researched it some. P-38 tank?
I'm new to this so take I easy fellas .
Floor space and chalk lines do not help you lay out 15 gals of Subaru in a 5 gal bucket

Floor space & chalk lines have produced my belly tank & my 4WD AA/BFS & as you see many other's.
Just take your pile of parts & lay them out on the floor & draw up a chassis to carry all the stuff inside your tank size.
A tank is an awkard build due to the fact you are building within an existing envelope. Those that have been there have a healthy respect toward other's who have also.
A mockup on the floor is by far the right way to start.
  Sid.