Michael Schumacher in coma

[Peter Jack]

I love how you old farts like to be the experts on just about everything you read on the computer.  You have the ability to read at a fifth grade level and post on the world wide web.  Your lack of education and ignorance just may get you a guest spot on Duck Dynasty.  Your generation will die out in a decade or so and the world will be a more tolerant place.  Do some reading on a subject you know nothing about.  More people die skiing with a helmet then those without.  Seriously most of you old clowns know squat.  Carry on.  Sparky where do you ski?  Where do you guys get your info from?  Well?  SSS really?

SKI123, with your attitude you probably won't find a lot of help or co-operation on this board.

While the context was there you didn't make it clear that you were referring to ski helmets. Most of us think instantly of crash helmets for motorized sport and that's how we take what you said.

Referring to us as old farts and insulting our reading ability just brands you as a young puke.

I think you might be surprised at the number of us who have spent a lot of time in our younger years skiing in the mountains. I have very easy access to the Banff area and a lot of people in the Pacific North West, the mountainous areas of the North East, Utah and California have similar situations.

When you don't make a clear statement and then insult those who disagree because you weren't clear in what you said, you bring on the criticism you're getting. I think you owe an apology to those you chose to trash. Are you mature enough to do that?

Pete (Old Fart)

[Milwaukee Midget]

I love how you old farts like to be the experts on just about everything you read on the computer.  You have the ability to read at a fifth grade level and post on the world wide web.  Your lack of education and ignorance just may get you a guest spot on Duck Dynasty.  Your generation will die out in a decade or so and the world will be a more tolerant place.  Do some reading on a subject you know nothing about.  More people die skiing with a helmet then those without.  Seriously most of you old clowns know squat.  Carry on.  Sparky where do you ski?  Where do you guys get your info from?  Well?  SSS really?

Do you have a bibliography you would like to share with us?

Chris (Loud Fart in a Library)

[Elmo Rodge]

"More people die skiing with a helmet then those without."

In the same exact situation as each other? While I'm not a fan of things like forced helmet use while riding a bike or something, I'm less a fan of number manipulation for an end. Wayno

[mitchell968]

i hate it for schumacher . ive skied for almost 40 yrs. worked as as lift ops/ maintenance at a 1/2 dozen resorts , wa, co, ak.  ski helmets are glorified bicycle helmets. you dont have to hit very hard before your still gonna get knocked stupid. i have more then twice with the ski helmets of the modern era. in the early 80s , i skied at alpental with my bell moto III with the visor off. my neck felt sore but my head felt safe. i hope he comes through this.

[makr]

I love how you old farts like to be the experts on just about everything you read on the computer.  You have the ability to read at a fifth grade level and post on the world wide web.  Your lack of education and ignorance just may get you a guest spot on Duck Dynasty.  Your generation will die out in a decade or so and the world will be a more tolerant place.  Do some reading on a subject you know nothing about.  More people die skiing with a helmet then those without.  Seriously most of you old clowns know squat.  Carry on.  Sparky where do you ski?  Where do you guys get your info from?  Well?  SSS really?

You played no-score soccer, didn't you?


Let the rage flow. You need to get it out of your system.

[SPARKY]

NO-Score---lmao---when I grew up it was before soccer in the South ---before the invasion of the soccer players form the South

[bbarn]

"Your generation will die out in a decade or so and the world will be a more tolerant place."

Ha, I love it. People that claim to be about tolerance that cannot display one ounce of tolerance for any ideal but their own. What a horrible argument you make. You are standing on the bodies of the dead to proclaim your views and have zero respect for those "old farts" that granted you the freedom to speak like a petulant child.

For the record, I am not an "old fart" and I'll be around long enough to make this world a miserable place for you intolerant bastards that think your ideas are the best. Go suck on an egg!

BTW, I will not comment further on the subject for two reasons: First, I have said my piece, you can choose to like it or not, I don't really care. Secondly, I know how to argue and it is obvious that you don't. The best way to argue with people who don't know how to litigate is to state your case and forget all about them, it drives them nuts when nobody listens to them.

Best thing for all of us to do is just ignore the arrogance of people like this and move on.

[Frank06]

Don't.  Feed.  The.  Troll.

...just sayin'

[bbarn]

Don't.  Feed.  The.  Troll.

...just sayin'

Bingo.

[SPARKY]

BB most of the time I try not to give them the satisfaction of knowing that they "Cranked my Subaru"-- "SmS"

[Milwaukee Midget]

Okay - I'm guilty of jumpin' ski123's shit on this one, too.

Let's see if we can get this one back on track - I think the original topic is more important than our collective ruffled feathers.

According the Chicago Tribune, Michael underwent surgery last night.  He's not out of the woods, but they were able to relieve some pressure on his brain.  It's still critical condition, but the doctors think they are in a better position to repair the internal bleeding . . .

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-michael-schumacher-skiing-accident-20131231,0,6496230.story

[Seldom Seen Slim]

Ski, I agree with the folks here that a: think you're being perhaps a tad touchy, and b: let's get back to Michael and move the helmet discussion to a separate thread.  Thanks.

PS  I wear a helmet whenever I'm on a bike - state laws or not.

[rouse]

Ski, I agree with the folks here that a: think you're being perhaps a tad touchy, and b: let's get back to Michael and move the helmet discussion to a separate thread.  Thanks.

PS  I wear a helmet whenever I'm on a bike - state laws or not.

"Ditto", all the above.

Rouse   (OFIC)

[4-barrel Mike]

A major New York Times article says that ski helmet use is up with no reduction in brain injuries:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/01/sports/on-slopes-rise-in-helmet-use-but-no-decline-in-brain-injuries.html?a=1&m=en-us

Mike

[wobblywalrus]

The helmet needs a hard shell and a crushable liner to allow the brain to decelerate slow enough to minimize injury.  It is important that the shell not deform.  DOT and Snell car and bike helmets are examples.  Helmet use statistics need to take this into account.  Goofy and substandard lids and associated injuries need to be kept in a separate category.  They do not accurately measure the effects of helmet use.