Jdincau, I will agree you have to manup to mount or dismount the tire, I attempted to remove the tire mounted to the wheel and after creating a mess with tire soap and three pry bars I decided to leave it on so I didn't ruin the tire bead. Thanks for all the input, what I have determined is that these are too good to pitch out, good enough to use but what is a fair price is still up in the air. Is it 4-5 or $600 range each or are they wall hangers? Thanks for the help I just want these to go to good use as them setting around my shop is just another dust collector.