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Offline jl222

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Re: The Math of a new venue?
« Reply #60 on: December 19, 2013, 02:12:51 PM »
 

   How about Bloodhound? Heard rumors of them building a road to there from the most unreliable person I know for telling the truth but maybe they would be interested :?

  Permit for graded 16 t0 20' wide road maybe a few culverts where needed. If there is already a road just a permit to widen
it. Wishful thinking Knowing bureaucrats, I had to get permission from Fish and Game [because drainage would go into a creek miles away] for installing a culvert on extending the road to our new house, complete with drawings from our plot and grading engineering co. :roll:  

  Not a good Idea for dirt road unless soil does not get slick and muddy when wet but I think the soil is mostly sandy.

 Don't want nightmare of racers getting stuck and not able to get out.

 Maybe someone could make a test drive looking for any problems such as major washes ect,

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Re: The Math of a new venue?
« Reply #61 on: December 19, 2013, 02:58:41 PM »
Isn't there a road on the east side of the flats going to floating mountain and the military range area?
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Re: The Math of a new venue?
« Reply #62 on: December 19, 2013, 03:17:05 PM »
Yep, it comes off I-80 at about the 37mile marker & runs along the top of the flood dyke to floating mt. It has a gate right before the pump station that requires the correct tool.  :roll:
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Re: The Math of a new venue?
« Reply #63 on: December 19, 2013, 03:46:47 PM »
I'm surprised, or maybe not, that someone has not taken a Top Fuel or Top Ally car to one of the present runway venues. T/F reach almost 290 at the eigth mile. Properly detuned to live 1 or 1 1/2 mle I think 500mph is attainable. Tires would be the big issue, as well as finding someone dumb enough to try it....

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Re: The Math of a new venue?
« Reply #64 on: December 19, 2013, 05:00:48 PM »
Silver mountain road would need a lot of work, we drove it while bored waiting for the Shootout, it was damp (slippery in spots) at the time and the far side was deeply rutted by the rain
some of the road near the saddle is on a powdery alkaline dust, that would not support much traffic either dry or wet

And from what we hear from the ordinance collecting guys after hours at Carmens when there work coincides with one of the events , that end is littered with hardware 

Not impossible, just some hurdles 

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Re: The Math of a new venue?
« Reply #65 on: December 19, 2013, 05:14:22 PM »
I'm surprised, or maybe not, that someone has not taken a Top Fuel or Top Ally car to one of the present runway venues. T/F reach almost 290 at the eigth mile. Properly detuned to live 1 or 1 1/2 mle I think 500mph is attainable. Tires would be the big issue, as well as finding someone dumb enough to try it....

Not counting tires, wouldn't pass tech...... :evil:
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Re: The Math of a new venue?
« Reply #66 on: December 19, 2013, 07:33:19 PM »
The FIA Land Speed Commission just homolgated some speed records.

http://racing.ford.com/series/road-racing/news/articles/2013/12/video--fia-announces-homologation-of-speed-records-at-daytona.html

Looks like fun.   :mrgreen:  I wonder how much a week's rent would be?

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Re: The Math of a new venue?
« Reply #67 on: December 20, 2013, 05:20:43 AM »
The FIA Land Speed Commission just homolgated some speed records.

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Congratulations to Ford.  Looks like they set Absolute World Records for 10 km and 10 miles from a standing start.

Perhaps they should have timed the 1 mile distance as well.  Could have beaten the BMW H2R record, giving them three in a row.

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Re: The Math of a new venue?
« Reply #68 on: December 20, 2013, 05:25:41 AM »


   How about Bloodhound? Heard rumors of them building a road to there from the most unreliable person I know for telling the truth but maybe they would be interested :?

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It is unlikely Bloodhound will run in the USA.  AFAIK current plans are for low speed shake-down runs in Cornwall followed almost immediately by record attempts in South Africa.

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Re: The Math of a new venue?
« Reply #69 on: December 20, 2013, 06:07:50 AM »
I'm surprised, or maybe not, that someone has not taken a Top Fuel or Top Ally car to one of the present runway venues. T/F reach almost 290 at the eigth mile. Properly detuned to live 1 or 1 1/2 mle I think 500mph is attainable. Tires would be the big issue, as well as finding someone dumb enough to try it....

Not counting tires, wouldn't pass tech...... :evil:

Would be allowed under the FIA, but it would be wise to change tyres. The UK wheeldriven record for the flying start kilo was set in 1970 by a dragster after a 1 kilo run to the timing trap.  Average speed was 207.98 mph.  Not sure you would see 500 (unless kph) and there was no surface preparation allowed to launch the car. 
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Re: The Math of a new venue?
« Reply #70 on: December 20, 2013, 06:09:56 AM »
The FIA Land Speed Commission just homolgated some speed records.

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Congratulations to Ford.  Looks like they set Absolute World Records for 10 km and 10 miles from a standing start.

Perhaps they should have timed the 1 mile distance as well.  Could have beaten the BMW H2R record, giving them three in a row.


Video shows these records were for a flying start, even though a standing start was mentioned in the early commentary.

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Re: The Math of a new venue?
« Reply #71 on: December 20, 2013, 06:46:40 AM »

Looks like fun.   :mrgreen:  I wonder how much a week's rent would be? Mike

If you wanted to run on a two mile circular banked track (oval) in the UK then you would need about $55,000 per day for exclusive use.  Would you like me to organise this for you? Location is in Bedford, England - use UK postcode MK45 2JQ on google maps to take a look at this facility and the high speed circuit.  Fastest lap so far is just under 200 mph by a roadgoing car.
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Re: The Math of a new venue?
« Reply #72 on: December 20, 2013, 11:38:16 AM »
Malcolm;

Is that the MIRA track?

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Re: The Math of a new venue?
« Reply #73 on: December 20, 2013, 12:32:27 PM »
Malcolm;

Is that the MIRA track?

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

No the perfect circle is at Millbrook.  MIRA has so far seen slower speeds on its oval high speed track. 
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Re: The Math of a new venue?
« Reply #74 on: December 20, 2013, 12:40:43 PM »

Looks like fun.   :mrgreen:  I wonder how much a week's rent would be? Mike

If you wanted to run on a two mile circular banked track (oval) in the UK then you would need about $55,000 per day for exclusive use.  Would you like me to organise this for you? Location is in Bedford, England - use UK postcode MK45 2JQ on google maps to take a look at this facility and the high speed circuit.  Fastest lap so far is just under 200 mph by a roadgoing car.

What is the fastest closed circuit lap anywhere?

I found this...

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fastest unofficial lap in Indy car racing history -- 242.333 mph during a practice session at what was then called California Speedway.

http://espn.go.com/racing/indycar/story/_/id/9282422/indycar-indy-needs-more-speed

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