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Re: Rule changes for 2014
« Reply #45 on: November 26, 2013, 07:50:22 AM »
So, at what exact point does the streamlining stop?

LOL  Buddy on a lakester it has to stop at the inner plane of the narrowest tire!   :-D

It would appear that you should have submitted your "Buddy's hood scoop rule" to read:

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« Reply #46 on: November 26, 2013, 03:45:59 PM »
Yes you can cover the Tire but the rim must be visible... The rules say wheel and rim... The rim is part of the wheel where the Tire mounts... So as long as the wheel/rim is visible the Tire can be covered is how I read it....

If you go to a bike shop or hotrod Shop alike and buy a new wheel or rim chances are you have to buy a tire to mount on it.... Changing a rim is much different than a tire according to my service manuals

My interpretation has always been that a Tire/Tyre + a Rim makes up a Wheel.

That is why I posted it, it is unclear and open to interpretation.

If a Wheel and a Rim are the same thing, under the Rules, and it is referred to as a Wheel everywhere else in the Rules, then simply call it that. Maybe the wording could be written as "7.B.10 Wheel/Rim"?

I don't care one way or another what the Tail Section Rules are, I just like to see the Rules written in a consistent, clear and simple way, it helps all of us, Officials and Competitors alike.

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i think its quite specific ,
wheel (tire and rim) must be visible from the side, fender is allowed to be 3" beyond the tire and none of it lower than the rim

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Re: Rule changes for 2014
« Reply #47 on: November 26, 2013, 04:45:56 PM »
I can now see why the change in the wording to the Tail Section.  :roll:

It looks like it's there to make sure the "Fender" does not cover anything other than the Tire/Tyre.

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Re: Rule changes for 2014
« Reply #48 on: November 26, 2013, 06:04:48 PM »
Overarching category of VINTAGE ENGINES insists on American-made production engine blocks.

Yet as a subcategory, V4 and V4F have specifically stricken the "American made" clause.

So can I finally put together that MG J3 supercharged overhead cam 4, stuff it in a chopped Bantam Roadster and go vintage racing on the salt?
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Re: Rule changes for 2014
« Reply #49 on: November 26, 2013, 08:18:58 PM »
Overarching category of VINTAGE ENGINES insists on American-made production engine blocks.

Yet as a subcategory, V4 and V4F have specifically stricken the "American made" clause.

So can I finally put together that MG J3 supercharged overhead cam 4, stuff it in a chopped Bantam Roadster and go vintage racing on the salt?

Chris,

No on the MG J3, I think there is a mistake somewhere along the line and what you have stated is not true. I know, I know, that is what is stated, but I think there has been a mistake in posting that.

I will let someone else chime in and explain what happened, and why?

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Re: Rule changes for 2014
« Reply #50 on: November 26, 2013, 09:04:21 PM »
Because the rewritten 2.A.1 Vintage Engines includes the words "American-made production engine blocks" it applies to all subsections of vintage engines. The redundant words in each subsection were removed for clarity, or so thought someone.

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Re: Rule changes for 2014
« Reply #51 on: November 27, 2013, 09:55:01 AM »
So benign xenophobia is still the overarching theme.  :-D

Seeing as the word "economy" was also stricken (I laughed at that - I always have), it was my hope that the newfound sense of reality had been augmented by a sense of esprit de corps.

I'll keep my eurotrash to the back of the paddock . . .
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Re: Rule changes for 2014
« Reply #52 on: November 27, 2013, 12:51:23 PM »
Because the rewritten 2.A.1 Vintage Engines includes the words "American-made production engine blocks" it applies to all subsections of vintage engines. The redundant words in each subsection were removed for clarity, or so thought someone.

DW

Ahhhh, So this is a case of the rarely seen  "Same Rule - Less Words" ?
I have heard of this, but never actually seen one in the wild.

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Re: Rule changes for 2014
« Reply #53 on: November 27, 2013, 01:22:53 PM »
"less words" - a rare breed indeed. Many an explorer has gone missing in search of this animal.

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Re: Rule changes for 2014
« Reply #54 on: November 27, 2013, 02:20:28 PM »
lol   :cheers:
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Re: Rule changes for 2014
« Reply #55 on: December 08, 2013, 11:39:20 AM »
So now I have a question regarding wheel skirts:


2.G WHEELS: deleted sentence NONFERROUS WHEELS: All non-tapered lug nuts that come in direct contact with the wheel shall have a ¼ inch thick steel retaining plate or large OD heavy gauge individual washers under all lug nuts. (This does not apply to spindle mounted nonferrous wheels.) Magnesium wheels are not recommended and, if used, shall have an initial Zyglo certificate and stamp available. Zyglo inspections made with tires mounted are accepted. Wheels are to be re-inspected if any adverse condition arises. It is recommended that tire pressure used on two-piece wheels  NOT exceed 60 PSI or manufacturer’s specifications. WHEEL COVERS: The prohibition against “wheel covering” in some class rules does not apply to “full wheel” discs, which are legal in all categories if securely fastened to the wheels with six (6) or more machine grade screws or three (3) Duzs-type fasteners.  Inner wheel discs shall be securely mounted to the wheel or axle.  All hubcaps shall be removed. Fender skirts are not allowed except in Streamliner class.

So on the rule change page, the phrase "fender skirts are not allowed except in streamliner class". This rule has been crossed out (as above), so does that mean in any class that skirts are accepted?

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Re: Rule changes for 2014
« Reply #56 on: December 08, 2013, 02:32:08 PM »
Hope so.  Just finishing up my full skirts for our Street Roadster.
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Re: Rule changes for 2014
« Reply #57 on: December 09, 2013, 05:42:14 PM »
No, just the opposite. If "fender skirts are not allowed..." They are not allowed.

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Re: Rule changes for 2014
« Reply #58 on: December 09, 2013, 06:38:48 PM »
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Re: Rule changes for 2014
« Reply #59 on: December 10, 2013, 07:24:51 PM »
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