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Offline Dean Los Angeles

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Re: Seat padding
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2013, 02:11:12 PM »
There's two sides to that issue. I bow to Stainless through his hard experience, but when you do make hard impact you want to avoid contacting hard surfaces too.

Is belt stretching designed in? The first impact may or may not be the hardest one when there are several.
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Offline John Burk

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Re: Seat padding
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2013, 04:00:36 PM »
As a passenger in the 1975 Baja 1000 I had plenty of time to experiment with belt tension . Tight is much better and foam padding is like slack belts .

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Re: Seat padding
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2013, 05:49:57 AM »
I have been shopping for seats myself, new and used.
The LSR is new to me, I have been driving (and a bit of racing) off road for many years and used the beard suspension seats. Looking at Butler and Kirkey. I am starting off slow (130 club at WOS) and go up from there.
I am also thinking the same what stainless stated, but for now I only have a 3 layer fire suite. So a bit more padding might be nice to the backside on a aluminum seat. I was thinking cotton layers would work for padding.

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Re: Seat padding
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2013, 08:18:25 AM »
I have been shopping for seats myself, new and used.
The LSR is new to me, I have been driving (and a bit of racing) off road for many years and used the beard suspension seats. Looking at Butler and Kirkey. I am starting off slow (130 club at WOS) and go up from there.
I am also thinking the same what stainless stated, but for now I only have a 3 layer fire suite. So a bit more padding might be nice to the backside on a aluminum seat. I was thinking cotton layers would work for padding.

Mike

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Re: Seat padding
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2013, 10:15:21 AM »
If the pressure points on hard flat panels are a problem, it doesn't take much work to contour them a little. Eliminates the pressure points and makes them feel a lot softer.

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Re: Seat padding
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2013, 11:15:15 AM »
In the 130 and 160 Clubs you can have all the padding you want, you can sit on normal car seats.  LSR is a  different set of rules.  If you are building for LSR on the salt, do not pad your seat... it is not allowed unless it is SFI rated padding.  Now with that said there are cars with poured form fit seats, but I think the poured foam is SFI rated.  Do a search and you will find that discussed in a couple of threads.  Remember you are not in it for very long... a salt run will have you in the car for a total of 20 minutes or less... includes suit up and in 3 cars back.  Most runs last a couple of minutes start to finish. 

Want to be comfortable or safe  :?
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Re: Seat padding
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2013, 02:57:04 PM »
" If you are building for LSR on the salt, do not pad your seat... it is not allowed unless it is SFI rated padding.  Now with that said there are cars with poured form fit seats, but I think the poured foam is SFI rated.  "

Is this one of those the rule book says one thing and the inspectors say "our interpretation is" something else deals?  3.D.1 only says max of 1" padding. Having it fire proof is nice but all the flat or curved SFI padding I have seen, I'd just as soon sit on the metal.  :roll:
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Re: Seat padding
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2013, 03:54:05 PM »
Jack, just read it...  again... you are right, it says  1 inch pad is allowed... and yes we had a old "naugahyde  pad" the thickness a 2 layers of material that was scrutinized, discussed and allowed.... Pork Pie wanted something to make the aluminum less slick.
 
Of course most of the team has the benefit of gravity helping keep us in place while being belted in...  :roll:

I stick with the firesuit padding is enough... you don't want to start with an extra inch of belt loosening...
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Re: Seat padding
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2013, 10:39:07 PM »
The sun can heat up a aluminum seat pretty quick.  A thin pad made from light colored outdoor carpet is what I use.  It does not compress and is a lot cooler if sun is on it.

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Re: Seat padding
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2013, 05:49:18 AM »
Stainless,

not the slick aluminum let me asked for something...

I'm so small that I was simple too low for the seatbelt...

for safety I wouldn't have a problem to run without and lying directly on the aluminum....the dots you get anyway....

Jack, just read it...  again... you are right, it says  1 inch pad is allowed... and yes we had a old "naugahyde  pad" the thickness a 2 layers of material that was scrutinized, discussed and allowed.... Pork Pie wanted something to make the aluminum less slick.
 
Of course most of the team has the benefit of gravity helping keep us in place while being belted in...  :roll:

I stick with the firesuit padding is enough... you don't want to start with an extra inch of belt loosening...
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Re: Seat padding
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2013, 11:59:13 AM »
I believe the word "interpretation" is being phased out. The rule book is doing it's best to stop different rules for different inspectors. This is great. Under what Glen said if anything is found after inspection you may look at being banned for life let alone possibly causing injury to your self.

Always build to exceed when possible. The SFI padding is available along with Nomex/fireproof cloth....
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